CSX 6000 at Barrett-Jackson

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Yeah, Ron Pratt would never buy a continuation replica kit car.

Can't help but laugh on that one, no matter which side of the fence you stand on. I think I'll borrow that one the next time I'm filling her up at the gas station (just to see the funny looks that will undoubtedly follow).

Hey REAL 1, how come no pics of your car in your gallery? If yours is as close to an original as your description states, it sure would be nice to share with others that want to learn more. If you have them posted at SAAC, then post a direct link to the album. Thanks.

-Dean

[stephen_becker]

Define the word" real" - LOL! (oh no, another can of worms opened!)

When someone askes me if its REAL, I say:

yes, its REAL fast

yes, its REAL expensive

yes, it can REAL-ly be yours for under 100k

[bdeutsch]

As Jay mentioned in an earlier post, at day's end it is not so much a factor of what you drive as much as it is a factor of having fun driving whatever you have.

With respect towards the posters who mentioned that they do not particularly care what non-enthusiasts think about the topic. A bit of thought here. I am an enthusiast, know the differences between an FFR, ERA, Hurricane, SPF, Shelby, Kirkham, etc., know the difference between a Crate Boss 302 stroked out to 331 versus a more custom engine and even can talk with some intelligence about the differences between a carburated (maybe do not spell so great) versus a fuel injected engine (I love the look of the downdraft Webers without all of the hassle). Admittedly, I am a bit weak in my knowledge of transmissions. NET-NET of this tome, I am a car guy who really would like to buy a Cobra (my short list is mentioned earlier).

Having said this, and remembering that I am through the emotional end of my decision tree, I am now focused on the value end of the decision. Right or wrong, and looking at what other vehicles I could buy for the same $, I have reached a conclusion that there is not a specialty constructed vehicle (as defined by CA) in the world, that is worth $100k+ (well maybe if its an original handbuilt hot rod from the ground up by a Foose or someone similar). Also, please recognize that I am not saying that many builders may not actually have this much money invested in one of their builds. At least for me, regardless of whether it is an SPF, ERA, CSX or Kirkham, the price point for an SPCN vehicle is somewhere south of this figure.

While points are well made regarding what cars are bringing at auction, I would ask that you do a quick scan of the various Cobra dealers throughout the U.S. who have had $100k+ cars available for a very long time. They are all really nice rides, but they simply are not selling for what the dealer is trying to get for them (recognizing that there may be exceptions you know of).

The other point I make with some level of confidence is that the group of folks who have the emotional link and $ resources to buy these cars is not increasing by any significant level. I think I can also predict that as the economy plays out in 2010, the number of dealers selling rollers, particularly in the higher end cars, will decrease. While I do not wish anybody ill will, it is starting to feel like supply is exceeding demand right now. Some business models may be able to continue to ride out the storm, others may not be as fortunate. If I am right, then Jay's thoughts become even more important I think.

[RedCSX1]

As a friend once said "There is an ass for every seat."

People just need to find the seat that fits their ass the best and some seats are more expensive than others. That is dictated not only by the manufaturer but also who built it and the quality of the build. There are some CSX Cobra's that I would not even consider based on who built them.

[Excaliber]

I found the rabbit hole, dove in, popped out the other side and discovered a red ERA. VERY happy!

[dcdoug]

Well said CSX4910.

[REAL 1]

CSX4910: I agree with some of what you said but your comment about me not be able to get over myself and that I have an aluminum CSX and others don't is out of line. Thats not what its about at all and you are misreading me. In fact, your the one that seems to have a hang up on not getting the aluminum Shelby. I have done nothing but say positive things about the glass CSXs. Where do you come off making those judgements???? Hmmmm. You don't know me from Adam.

Also your right I'm not doing owners of CSX any favors "who appreciate all Cobras". Who said I was trying to do you or any other CSX owners any favors? If any CSX owner wants to consider their Cobra a "replica" as that term is commonly understood today or refer to it as such feel free. They can be as self deprecating about their car as they want to make friends here or elsewhere. I have no interest in making friends if the price is calling my Cobra a "replica" to make people here or elsewhere feel better about what they have. I have enough friends already. Thanks. But if you want to go right ahead. They'll love you here.

My comments sound like a broken record because as you pointed out I am confronted with the same comments here repeatedly on a public forum and I am defending what my car is as defined by SAAC and from what are intended to be demeaning characterazation of the Continuation series made by many here. Not important to you? Thats your business. Thats fine. It is of interest to me though.

I would like it to stop but when confronted with inaccurate comments about the Continuation Series here on a public forum dedicated to Cobras and Cobra replicas I respond. Don't like it. Don't read it.

Hey Rodknock: Explain to me why I should care about the what the "general public" thinks that aren't car enthusiasts and not interested in these cars???? Please I'd love to know why?

RedBarchetta: Why do you want to see pics of my car. Go look at a SPF. These cars are all the same anyway, right?

[csx4910]

I am not hung iup on not getting one, just regretting not spending the extra $10K when it is now $50K but that is hindsight. My point is that if we spent more time enjoying our cars and appreciating all cpobras and less pissing on eadch each other everyone would be happier. Thius isnt high school last itme I checked but it sure seems like it at times with someof you. You are right I dont know you from Adam but I would guess that you are a lawyer. Am I right?

[somedayaurora]

Real1 I understand your anger . I think most of us were just talkin and busting your chops a bit , all in good fun . Sorry if I got a bit out of hand , you sound genuinely annoyed . I don't believe anyone was trying to go out of there way to ruin your day .
SDR

[twobjshelbys]

These are some pictures of CSX6018, Shelby Continuation Cobra. The light makes it look purple but it really is blue.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

RedBarchetta: Why do you want to see pics of my car. Go look at a SPF. These cars are all the same anyway, right?

Just wow. I expected a better answer from you, one that would lend toward "Hey, this guy wants to actually learn how someone else went to the expense and effort to replicate a real one using a continuation series as a base platform. Gee, maybe I ought to send him some images or point him to a link that has some."

But instead you come back with this POS response? And even after I actually supported your stance that CSX's should be viewed as continuation series cars and labeled/viewed as such?

Blow me.

[RedCSX1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by csx4910
Carroll Shelby has turned into an a@#$% in his old age.

Best quote ever (comic book guy voice)
SDR


Wonder how much time you guys have spent with Carroll Shelby. When I have been around him I really never got that impression. I wonder how calm many of us will be at 85 plus years that is if we are still around. Just sayin....

[REAL 1]

CSX4910: I agree. Guys shouldn't be pissing on other's cars. Its about respect. Its like someone peeing in your sleeping blanket at a sleepover. Thats not cricket. The fact this is a public forum I believe makes it important to keep the facts straight when clearly some try and put down the CSX series by refering to them as replicas. I think its important that someone speaks up. Thats all. It was WAY worse here years ago. This is nothing.

Somedayaurora: No worries. Not upset at all. I take stuff with a grain a of salt around here. Good luck on your search for a Continuation series.

REDCSX: Ol' CS can get a little cranky but all in all he is entitled at his age. I've seen him get cranky before, but by and large he is usually very friendly and gracious.

[somedayaurora]

I just thought it was a funny quote , I was actually impressed with his mini interview at BJ . That being said I do believe his use of lawyer is a little heavy and the zzmax thing just makes me shake my head . Real1 thanks I hope to have one this spring , regrettably not a continuation , but definitely one of the highline replicas ERA/CCX/UM .
SDR

nothing against SPF/BDR , hard to get up here and CSX/KHM out of my pay scale

[twobjshelbys]

Isn't this about the CSX6000 price at Barrett Jackson (with a little thrown in maybe on the other two original CSX2xxx's that were there)?

Another forum I participate in has a "recycle bin" where tech topics off-topic replies get moved to. If the moderators were to take every CSX related topic and move all the extraneous discussion of "CSX vs non-CSX" to that topic it would probably have more replies than any other topic on this forum.

This subject is religion and politics. Noone's mind is going to be changed by any further discussion on the subject here.

There's nothing to see here. Move on.

I have some pictures of CSX6018 I will post tonight.

[dcdoug]

Anybody have any more popcorn? I am running out....

[RedBarchetta]

Oh, I'm playing nice so far. You wouldn't like to see me when I'm angry.

Debates just bring out the best in some people.

[somedayaurora]

Can't wait 2bjshelbys , you take some nice pics .
SDR

[REAL 1]

RedBarchetta: As to your request, No thanks I'll pass. A little touchy aren't we????

Hey, I get so much crap here it was just a reflex response. With all the bullets and sharpnel flying its hard to remember who says what.

I guess my post was a little uncalled for. Sorry.

If you still want pics I can email some to you. PM me with your email.

Thanks.

Rodknock: My point is simple. I believe that those that are into these cars and understand what the they are and have educated themselves and therefore are familar with SAAC and the Registry have come around to accepting the Continuation series as more then a replica. Thats the general public I'm referring to.

The general public that doesn't know Chit from shinola why should I be concerned about what they think. Explain it to me.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

RedBarchetta: As to your request, No thanks I'll pass. A little touchy aren't we????

PM sent. You have gone through all this effort to produce a dead-nuts recreation...you should be willing to share it more with others. My $0.02 but I'll respect those that don't want to post pics (for whatever reasons).