CSX 6000 at Barrett-Jackson

[somedayaurora]

Can't wait 2bjshelbys , you take some nice pics .
SDR

[REAL 1]

RedBarchetta: As to your request, No thanks I'll pass. A little touchy aren't we????

Hey, I get so much crap here it was just a reflex response. With all the bullets and sharpnel flying its hard to remember who says what.

I guess my post was a little uncalled for. Sorry.

If you still want pics I can email some to you. PM me with your email.

Thanks.

Rodknock: My point is simple. I believe that those that are into these cars and understand what the they are and have educated themselves and therefore are familar with SAAC and the Registry have come around to accepting the Continuation series as more then a replica. Thats the general public I'm referring to.

The general public that doesn't know Chit from shinola why should I be concerned about what they think. Explain it to me.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

RedBarchetta: As to your request, No thanks I'll pass. A little touchy aren't we????

PM sent. You have gone through all this effort to produce a dead-nuts recreation...you should be willing to share it more with others. My $0.02 but I'll respect those that don't want to post pics (for whatever reasons).

[REAL 1]

No problem I will send pics.

Thanks.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Rodknock: My point is simple. I believe that those that are into these cars and understand what the they are and have educated themselves and therefore are familar with SAAC and the Registry have come around to accepting the Continuation series as more then a replica. Thats the general public I'm referring to.

The general public that doesn't know Chit from shinola why should I be concerned about what they think. Explain it to me.

I understand your 1st point, but I don't understand why I have to explain to you why you should be concerned with the general public at large, the people who know absolutely nothing about SAAC or Shelby Cobras. I never brought it up, you did, and then you further defined your remark.

My point is/was that Mr. Comer is considered an expert on the marque for the following reasons:

1. he owns and has owned many Shelbys including, but not limited to, Mustangs and Cobras,
2. he wrote a book on Shelbys,
3. he vintage races Shelbys,
4. he has a longtime business that buys and sells Shelbys, as well as other sportscars and musclecars,
5. he writes for what I believe is the premier "auction results" magazine.

Thus, he would be on the ground, in the crowd, talking to these folks at these premier auction events around the country. These "auction buyers and sellers," THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, "have begun to clearly view CSX continuation Cobras as authentic Shelby Cobras and more then mere "replicas."

You stated this, as fact, when Mr. Comer, the expert and person who attends these events wrote an article that states w/o ambiguity that the CSX and Kirkham, along with every other Cobra manufacturer (non CSX2000 & CSX3000), are replicas.

I don't think your original statement is valid. There are those knowledgable people that think it is more than a mere replica and there are those knowledgable people that think that they are a replica.

EDIT: And please don't quote the SAAC Registry. I'm NOT talking about SAAC's definition.

[somedayaurora]

Don't want to get into this again , but was on the SAAC site , and had to laugh ; are favorite author and his car business is a SAAC sponsor. Lets move on .
SDR

[SP01715]

How can BJ list that CSX6000 series as a "1965" on the board? Those in the know understand it was not built in 1965, but I think that is a little deceptive. My.02

[computerworks]

That's pretty much convention when talking about any replica....using the year it replicates.
You see it all the time with fiberglas street rods listed as "'32 Ford," etc.

[REAL 1]

Candidly I don't care what Mr. Comer says. He is one author. There are many others with a variety of differing opinions. Maybe we should watch was each "expert" has to say and change with the wind everytime writes an article.

In my mind and I believe in the majority of minds who are knowledgable SAAC is the definitive source and word on these cars.

You want to adopt Comers view point go right ahead if that makes you feel better. You were with Comer? You saw him talking to people at these events? What did they say? Who did he talk to? How many people did he talk to? He owns original Shelbys? In my mind that creates a question of bias as to how he looks at and writes about Continuation Series Cobras.

And these people on the ground that you assume he is talking to and seem to know what they are saying are plunking down near and over $100K for Shelbys when they could buy based on your view another "replica" for 1/3 to 1/2 that. That tells me something. Maybe it doesn't say anything to you but it does to me.

I am talking about the SAAC definition because as far as I am concerned the Registry is the Bible on these cars and defines what they are. You want to rest on Comers article on "replicas" go right ahead and if you think he sets the standard...by all means...think what you want.

[SP01715]

Originally Posted by computerworks

That's pretty much convention when talking about any replica....using the year it replicates.
You see it all the time with fiberglas street rods listed as "'32 Ford," etc.

When people ask me what year my car is I tell them it is a Cobra replica built in 04. I feel like it would be dishonest to say 1965, when it was not built in 65.

So if they list a CSX 6000 as a 1965 because it replicates a 1965 Cobra does that mean it's a Replica...

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by SP01715

How can BJ list that CSX6000 series as a "1965" on the board? Those in the know understand it was not built in 1965, but I think that is a little deceptive. My.02

Actually, if you go and look at NADA under 1965 Shelby American, they list it as a 1965 Cobra as well (that's what the DC DMV uses to assign tax to cars, so that's how I found out about it). We all know it's really not a '65, but I think Carroll convinced some folks that he issued all the VINs for these cars and they have been work in progress ever since:

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...a=1&y=1965&da1