FFR MK4 . Some great new additions

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

Good grief.

Jay, fyi... I'll be down in Boynton in the next month or so to see my buddy Richard Bailey and visit with Reg Dodd about a TD car. I'd like another cobra and the TD car could fit a dual-purpose application of street and track car which could potentially take the place of my Panoz - and save space and $$$. The reason I am considering that is because Reg supports his product so well and the product is solid. Now this is coming from a guy who's made it pretty clear he's interested in a 289. Well, I have a decision to make on whether I want to go to the track more or have an..."authentic looking" ... "cobra" more.

Your product is a lot different than what FFR is doing and I think caters to a totally different customer. I'm not sure why you are sniping in here with these comments but it's not the sort of thing I'd expect Reg to do, that's for sure.

Take it easy.

Yeah, take it easy Thanks for explaining the product to me. I think you should read my comments again, I'm all for a new offering by FFR... if anything it has been too long. Keep reading and good luck with Reg and the TD car.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Yeah, take it easy Thanks for explaining the product to me. I think you should read my comments again, I'm all for a new offering by FFR... if anything it has been too long. Keep reading and good luck with Reg and the TD car.

Jay, it's probably wiser for you to adopt the strategy that other manufacturers / representatives are employing with this topic and stay clear lest your intent be misconstrued - which obviously I have, right?

Best wishes.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by jmimac351

Jay, it's probably wiser for you to adopt the strategy that other manufacturers / representatives are employing with this topic and stay clear lest your intent be misconstrued - which obviously I have, right?

Best wishes.

You mean the same guys that stay clear when customers need assistance, guidance, or have issues to solve with their product? The beauty of this forum over the other one is it does not belong to any one manufacturer and is open for discussion with a lot less slant.

As for the claims on the body shape, that would be very easy to prove if you did in fact digitize the source body. So?

Standard IRS (what a car of this nature needs) would be a far greater feat.

[TButtrick]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

As for the claims on the body shape, that would be very easy to prove if you did in fact digitize the source body. So?

You can still digitize a car and then make changes to fit your application. The great thing about today's modeling software is that it allows the user to tweek and not lose critical proportions. In other words, and as an example, If FFR needed to length the vertical space between the bottom of the door to the bottom of the sill to fit their frame mounting points, they could enlarge the entire area from the top of the door to the bottom of the sill and forward to the front wheel arch so they keep the relative shape and perspective and the changes become less notable.

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Standard IRS (what a car of this nature needs) would be a far greater feat.

You really believe that? You really believe that what they've been able to accomplished is far less of a feat than making IRS standard rather than optional? Nonsense. The same could be said about struts vs. A arms. Regardless, I believe the FFR Spec series still require solid axle.

Originally Posted by Cashburn

You mean the same guys that stay clear when customers need assistance, guidance, or have issues to solve with their product? The beauty of this forum over the other one is it does not belong to any one manufacturer and is open for discussion with a lot less slant.

The additional beauty of this forum is that you can quickly distinguish between those who have first hand experience and those that may be biased for one reason or another.

I guess the Fall Foliage Cruise won't be including FFRs any longer.

[computerworks]

Let's just cut the sniping crap and have everyone keep their hands on the table.

The topic is: FFR MK4 . Some great new additions

Please stay on that track.

Thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by TButtrick

You can still digitize a car and then make changes to fit your application. The great thing about today's modeling software is that it allows the user to tweek and not lose critical proportions. In other words, and as an example, If FFR needed to length the vertical space between the bottom of the door to the bottom of the sill to fit their frame mounting points, they could enlarge the entire area from the top of the door to the bottom of the sill and forward to the front wheel arch so they keep the relative shape and perspective and the changes become less notable.



You really believe that? You really believe that what they've been able to accomplished is far less of a feat than making IRS standard rather than optional? Nonsense. The same could be said about struts vs. A arms. Regardless, I believe the FFR Spec series still require solid axle.



The additional beauty of this forum is that you can quickly distinguish between those who have first hand experience and those that may be biased for one reason or another.

I guess the Fall Foliage Cruise won't be including FFRs any longer.

I don't know what any of this discussion has to do with the Fall Cruise, but it's really taking on a tone that has "taking my toys" feel to it. Which is too bad, have a hot dog and read it all through again... one thing our shop has always been is open door to owners of all replica makes.

Regardless, I am a distributor and NOT a manufacturer. If a manufacturer has something to distribute that I feel is better for me or the market I can explore it and go with it. For now I am quite happy where I am. If another manufacturer improves their product HURRAY, that means my manufacturer will step up too (if it is warranted).

I have experienced the benefits overall of a little more wheelbase and some more track width coupled to an IRS and I don't want to compromise and give that up... sorry if that does not fit your preference. Quite a few stunning cars out there I would never be comfortable to throw around the street.

My point on the digitized body is now you have a scan of that body and you obviously have some form of plot of the new body, if you want to demonstrate how close you came then show that. I have no dog in the fight for "accuracy" when it comes to the lines, I am happy to see improvements wherever they may be.

But it is too early for anyone to get all hopped up on the authentic body claim when all you have is a couple forklift photos... let it develop. ERA has been offering a beautiful "historic" body for 20+ years in a kit form BTW