Shelby CSX price increase!

[BT SNAKE]

Here is just another what if..... What if there was
another replica that was exactly like the fiberglass
Cobras Shelby sells. Down to the last nut, bolt and screw. And they were 40K instead of their old price of 50K. Now are you telling me they would still sell more of the Shelbys because of the name and CSX?

What's a Series I going for these days?

Hersh

[rodneym]

Jeez, Hersh. You with your "what ifs".

That is an intriguing question. I've seen this scenario done with guitars and watches. You could get an Ollech & Wajs watch made with NOS Breitling Navitimer parts, in effect buying a NOS Breitling for less than a new 'Real' Breitling. And the Ollech & Wajs will have the period correct movement. To watch fanatics 'in the know', it's better (in a vintage sense) than a new Breitling. All of us know Breitling but who would investigate an Ollech & Wajs?
Perhaps more of 'us' would buy the identical 'CSX' knockoff, but not Anthony!
Won't the Riverside Racers FIA fit this category?

rodneym

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Jeez, Hersh. You with your "what ifs".

That is an intriguing question. I've seen this scenario done with guitars and watches. You could get an Ollech & Wajs watch made with NOS Breitling Navitimer parts, in effect buying a NOS Breitling for less than a new 'Real' Breitling. And the Ollech & Wajs will have the period correct movement. To watch fanatics 'in the know', it's better (in a vintage sense) than a new Breitling. All of us know Breitling but who would investigate an Ollech & Wajs?
Perhaps more of 'us' would buy the identical 'CSX' knockoff, but not Anthony!
Won't the Riverside Racers FIA fit this category?

rodneym

Jeez, Rodney. For us non-watch guys, we have no clue what you just said.

BTW, what does the acronym HST mean? Is that South Africa, Mexico or Las Vegas? I'm lost. Sorry.

[cobrakalas427]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

...BTW, what does the acronym HST mean? Is that South Africa, Mexico or Las Vegas? I'm lost. Sorry.

HST = Horsepower, Speed & Torque

http://www.hstintl.com/index.php?submenu=1

That would be Mexico

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Jeez, Hersh. You with your "what ifs".

That is an intriguing question. I've seen this scenario done with guitars and watches. You could get an Ollech & Wajs watch made with NOS Breitling Navitimer parts, in effect buying a NOS Breitling for less than a new 'Real' Breitling. And the Ollech & Wajs will have the period correct movement. To watch fanatics 'in the know', it's better (in a vintage sense) than a new Breitling. All of us know Breitling but who would investigate an Ollech & Wajs?
Perhaps more of 'us' would buy the identical 'CSX' knockoff, but not Anthony!
Won't the Riverside Racers FIA fit this category?

rodneym

Like putting a Rolex movement in a Panerai case...

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by BT SNAKE

Here is just another what if..... What if there was
another replica that was exactly like the fiberglass
Cobras Shelby sells. Down to the last nut, bolt and screw. And they were 40K instead of their old price of 50K. Now are you telling me they would still sell more of the Shelbys because of the name and CSX?
Hersh

Originally Posted by rodneym

Jeez, Hersh. You with your "what ifs".

That is an intriguing question. I've seen this scenario done with guitars and watches. You could get an Ollech & Wajs watch made with NOS Breitling Navitimer parts, in effect buying a NOS Breitling for less than a new 'Real' Breitling. And the Ollech & Wajs will have the period correct movement. To watch fanatics 'in the know', it's better (in a vintage sense) than a new Breitling. All of us know Breitling but who would investigate an Ollech & Wajs?
Perhaps more of 'us' would buy the identical 'CSX' knockoff, but not Anthony!
Won't the Riverside Racers FIA fit this category?

rodneym

Actually, it's not a "what if", it's more of a "what happened to it". It's been done already. The company was called "High Tech / Hi-Tech" in Phoenix, AZ, that went bankrupt a while back. That car basically became the CSX4000 car, as Tom D'Antonio from Hi-Tech went to work for Shelby to start the CSX4000 series, and Hi-Tech continued to operate for a while under Tim Gunning.

BTW, I haven't heard of those watches before, but, can you give me some contact info, so I can have my buyer purchase a case of 50 or more of them for my collection?

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by Anthony

BTW, I haven't heard of those watches before, but, can you give me some contact info, so I can have my buyer purchase a case of 50 or more of them for my collection?

50? Is that all?
If you check out this page http://www.gnomonwatches.com/Aviation.htm
it'll show a line called 'Aviation' by Ollech & Wajs. These watches are made of NOS Breitling parts from the 70's. These are Breitling time machines. For the WIS (Watch Idiot Savants - self proclaimed badge of honor), these watches are finer than the ubiquitous Valjoux 7750 movements that are in most every brand, from swiss watches ranging from $2,000 to $15,000.
If there was a Cobra equivalent, I don't know what it is. Well, I guess Shelby did have a story about old frames he found (and McCluskey looked SO guilty in those old photos). But, if Breitling kept these parts and put them back in the market.....big bucks (relatively).

I think future watch questions should be PM'd.

rodneym

[Ken Oikawa]

Originally Posted by rodneym

50? Is that all?
If you check out this page http://www.gnomonwatches.com/Aviation.htm
it'll show a line called 'Aviation' by Ollech & Wajs. These watches are made of NOS Breitling parts from the 70's. These are Breitling time machines. For the WIS (Watch Idiot Savants - self proclaimed badge of honor), these watches are finer than the ubiquitous Valjoux 7750 movements that are in most every brand, from swiss watches ranging from $2,000 to $15,000.
If there was a Cobra equivalent, I don't know what it is. Well, I guess Shelby did have a story about old frames he found (and McCluskey looked SO guilty in those old photos). But, if Breitling kept these parts and put them back in the market.....big bucks (relatively).

I think future watch questions should be PM'd.

rodneym

Here's an ad from gnomonwatches website for a Cosmonaute...

'Watch Specifications:
Movement: New Old Stock Valjoux Calibre 7736 mechanical movement. Luminance: Tritium. Dial: Arabic numerals. 3 Chronograph subdials. Slider rule.'

It seems Breitling modified a Valjoux movement to suit their watches just like Rolex modified Valjoux for their early Daytonas. 6238-6265.

Cheers....

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by Ken Oikawa

'Watch Specifications:
Movement: New Old Stock Valjoux Calibre 7736 mechanical movement. Luminance: Tritium. Dial: Arabic numerals. 3 Chronograph subdials. Slider rule.'

It seems Breitling modified a Valjoux movement to suit their watches just like Rolex modified Valjoux for their early Daytonas. 6238-6265.

Cheers....

Ken,
The Valjoux 7736 and its sisters were the predecessor to the 7750, which is in Omega, Breitling, Tag Heuer, et al. Brands claim to modify but Omega does more than all other brands combined. Once you recognize the face layout of the 7750 you'll never forget it. The same movement in a Hamilton ($1,300) as a Chopard ($5,000). Of course we're not talking haute horology but they're good watches.

Rolex used the Valjoux 72 (I believe) in Daytonas but they're all in house now. Rolex is more vertical than any other swiss company. They're bullet proof movements and the finish is better than the past but not typically appreciated like Lemania. And I'm sure most fans would say the best movement ever in a Rolex Daytona was the Zenith El Primero, 36000 bph!
rodneym