Roush Engine Failure – Pictures

[csx4910]

In all seriousness(as much as this group can muster anyway) any idea the true weight of a 'glass CSX empty? I have heard many diffrent weight but I am curious to know the actual weight.
Ron

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by csx4910

In all seriousness(as much as this group can muster anyway) any idea the true weight of a 'glass CSX empty? I have heard many diffrent weight but I am curious to know the actual weight.
Ron

Ron, in reading OLD threads here, I believe an early CSX4000 with all the aluminum bits (block, heads, intake, water pump, rear end, etc.) is/was about 150 +/- lbs more than a Kirkham or approximately 2,300 lbs, but you should definitely get your car weighed and give us an accurate figure since things change over time.

With a Quicktime bellhousing and the usual aluminum bits, my Kirkham weighed in at 2,128 lbs, but I need to find some magnesium Halibrand wheels.

[dcdoug]

My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.

It's a well known fact that the lighter the car the more it requires constant retorquing of the bolts due to a lack of low-density rigidity.

[patrickt]

And whatever happened to that CSX "manual" that was being written by someone on this board and that I correctly predicted would die on the vine just like it has umpteen times before....

[BBQCYCLEWERKES]

The NIB 427 side oiler blocks are new warrantee blocks from the early 1970's from what I can tell so far. I have 1 of the cammer motors in a mudd bogger for sale on Craigs list. in a 1970's ford P.U. called Rat Poison. Will be wants $30,000 for the complete veh incl the rear large swamp tires. Also have used 427 std & side oiler blocks, 428 CJ blocks, medium & High Riser heads, forged cranks, Alumn 4V, dual quad & tripower intakes, etc. My friend was a real Ford racing nut. Helping him out before he died and working around all those 427 motors is what got me interested in a Cobra again. Once I get all the stuff sorted out I'll most likely post the items in the for sale forum here. Any questions, contact me. The other Bob Q.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES

Once I get all the stuff sorted out I'll most likely post the items in the for sale forum here.

That would be great. That way we can continue to tweak RodKnock about his SOHC motor.

[BBQCYCLEWERKES]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

That would be great. That way we can continue to tweak RodKnock about his SOHC motor.

Does RodKnock have a Ford SOHC motor or one of those Dove or other brand SOHC? From what I can determine the orig Ford SOHC is more valueable and collectable. Is that correct? B.Q.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES

Does RodKnock have a Ford SOHC motor or one of those Dove or other brand SOHC? From what I can determine the orig Ford SOHC is more valueable and collectable. Is that correct? B.Q.

RodKnock has dreams of having any sort of SOHC motor, the more alloy the better. But as of yet, he is still unwilling to stroke the check to make his dream into reality.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES

I have 1 of the cammer motors in a mudd bogger for sale on Craigs list. in a 1970's ford P.U. called Rat Poison. Will be wants $30,000 for the complete veh incl the rear large swamp tires.

Hmmm, I could swap the Cammer and the mudd bogger tires for my 482 and Yokohama's and call my Cobra "Snake Poison."

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.

I had to get CSX4005LA weighed for my title/plates. It was 2600 as well. This is a carbon fiber roller but the iron in Roush 427IR in the front adds up.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

... but the iron in Roush 427IR in the front adds up.

That's only about 80lbs more than an all aluminum Dart.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by ERA Chas

That's only about 80lbs more than an all aluminum Dart.

Where did the weight come from? I probably had a full tank too but that doesn't add up. Wheels perhaps? They're not magnesium. I thought CF was supposed to be lighter than glass.

[Excaliber]

From what few numbers I've seen in reference to carbon fiber vs glass, I've always been surprised to see the weight difference is not significant. Go figure...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

And whatever happened to that CSX "manual" that was being written by someone on this board and that I correctly predicted would die on the vine just like it has umpteen times before....

It was PANAVIA (Steve) from Mustang Ranch. Man, you keep banging that drum. Yes, ERA is the best Cobra, because they have a manual. Manuals are soooooo important for our cars, since they're soooooo complicated

(Note: sarcasm excludes me, since I can't fight my way out of a wet paper bag let alone assemble and disassemble a Cobra ).

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Man, you keep banging that drum. ... Manuals are soooooo important for our cars, since they're soooooo complicated

(Note: sarcasm...LOL.

I bang that drum because it resonates so clearly. If it was that easy, the manual would have been done by now. I won't go back and pull the thread, but it's easy to find, where I say to DCDoug, "it won't be done, it won't ever be done, and you won't even hear about it when the project is quietly abandoned. You'll just be left twisting in the wind if you were indeed waiting for it."

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I bang that drum because it resonates so clearly. If it was that easy, the manual would have been done by now. I won't go back and pull the thread, but it's easy to find, where I say to DCDoug, "it won't be done, it won't ever be done, and you won't even hear about it when the project is quietly abandoned. You'll just be left twisting in the wind if you were indeed waiting for it."

He's just trying to get me to take the bait. But when I run into an issue now, I just pepper you guys with inane questions until I get a manual with pictures from Patrickt about how he would solve my problem (and increasing his post count by at least 50 while doing so) and ERAChas starts telling me to stop over-thinking the issue.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

.. ERAChas starts telling me to stop over-thinking the issue.

DC-you're over-thinking my advice...

[Excaliber]

I wouldn't expect Shelby to offer a manual, I suspect 98% of the car's are built by dealers anyway, or completed by a professional. Whereas, many ERA's are built, to varying degrees, by the original purchaser. The ERA manual goes into great detail about how to BUILD the car, just not necessary for the typical Shelby.

I know a guy who built an early CSX8000's himself (fairly rare I think). As I understand it, from him, he ran into a LOT of problems putting the various details together (no manual you see). Shelby followed that build closely to gain some knowledge of what to do with the future ones (but still no manual, who needs it?).

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I bang that drum because it resonates so clearly. If it was that easy, the manual would have been done by now. I won't go back and pull the thread, but it's easy to find, where I say to DCDoug, "it won't be done, it won't ever be done, and you won't even hear about it when the project is quietly abandoned. You'll just be left twisting in the wind if you were indeed waiting for it."

1 out of 100 CSX buyers might want a manual, er, or as you would say 99% don't care. How often do you refer to your ERA's manual and tell the truth.

Anyway, as your mom and dad said to you as a child, "Patrick, you're different."