Halibrand Magnesium 427 Wheels

patrickt · #1 (**permalink**) 12-12-2010, 06:06 PM

You know Rod, even you could clean your air bleeds.

rodneym · #2 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 03:32 PM

I didn't forget.
I'm still waiting on Richard @ Halibrand.
I'll call him tomorrow if I don't hear from him today.

patrickt · #3 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym

I didn't forget.
I'm still waiting on Richard @ Halibrand.
I'll call him tomorrow if I don't hear from him today.

... hmmm, not to be the pessimist, but I detect the faint acrid smell of a deal going sour. But on the positive side, it hasn't actually curdled yet, so there still may be time.. but as RodKnock would say, "it's starting to look grim."

rodneym · #4 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

... hmmm, not to be the pessimist, but I detect the faint acrid smell of a deal going sour. But on the positive side, it hasn't actually curdled yet, so there still may be time.. but as RodKnock would say, "it's starting to look grim."

OK, doubting Thomas's. It's aint over yet. I just got some answers from Richard @ Halibrand.

1. CSX289 (SAAC forum) wants 4 fronts w/ no gold coloring: Richard said this is not a problem. He will quote seperately when he gets the cost finalized...
2. COST?!?! Still weeks away from getting this done. Mid January.

3. WhatsaCobra (2 sets by Spring): Richard said that delivery takes 60 days which would put us at mid March (Richard's words). May be a best case scenario, but still

What if it's April or May? Would you be in or out?
4. Will the machined lips be coated? Richard is currently looking at a new coating for the lips that shows promise but won't have an answer until mid Jan.

Nothing Earth shattering but we're chipping away at it. I'll keep this thread alive thru January. If anyone has more questions, I'd be happy to ask.

Any mag owners want to share with us how awesome their wheels are?

(and you can complain all you want, if they're on your Cobra, they're worth it

)

csx289 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 04:35 PM

Hi,

Well, you call them "fronts," I call them 2 fronts and 2 rears for my narrow hip 427!

I would want them with no coating of any kind, and no paint or powder coat on the centers.

Please send me a PM when you get somewhere on the project, as I don't get to the forums too often.

Thanks!
Colin
csx289

rodneym · #6 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by csx289

I would want them with no coating of any kind, and no paint or powder coat on the centers.
Please send me a PM when you get somewhere on the project, as I don't get to the forums too often.
Thanks!
Colin
csx289

No problem, Colin. I'll find you on SAAC.
When we get close, Richard will need to speak with you personally.
Thanks.

DanEC · #7 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by csx289

Hi,

Well, you call them "fronts," I call them 2 fronts and 2 rears for my narrow hip 427!

I would want them with no coating of any kind, and no paint or powder coat on the centers.

Please send me a PM when you get somewhere on the project, as I don't get to the forums too often.

Thanks!
Colin
csx289

If you have a narrow hip 427, please post some pics. That's my favorite body variation.

ERA Chas · #8 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym

4. Will the machined lips be coated? Richard is currently looking at a new coating for the lips that shows promise but won't have an answer until mid Jan.

Any mag owners want to share with us how awesome their wheels are?

(and you can complain all you want, if they're on your Cobra, they're worth it

)

OK all you Nouveau Halibranistas...

In all my prior cautions about oxidization, I omitted one significant factor; brake dust. If you wish to keep them in as-new condition, one season (or year-round) of brake dust will attack them and bore into the surface over time-meaning emery cloth(s), steel wool, wet-or-dry(s)-then polish. Gibbs, WD or anything else won't stop that. Of course you can leave it for that 'real' look (can't get more real than H's) but your investment is going away. Don't expect too much about any coating because brake dust will eat anything. I can post a snap as I'm doing mine right now-if anybody cares. And mine are highly maintained. Also -forget washing the car with a water hose (never did that) if you don't want them to turn.

Share/awesome?-They been on my car since 1991-what does that say about how I feel about them? They make Trigos and Vintages (both fine wheels) look like Chinese copies. Then if you compete the car there's the unbearable lightness. There presence transports the car back in time...
My not-so-humble opinion.

RodKnock · #9 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Don't expect too much about any coating because brake dust will eat anything.

Well, if there was ever someone to put out a fire, Chas would be the man. Talk about someone pee'ing on your parade.

Dumb question. What about organic brake pads? I shop only at Whole Foods and I'm a Vegan.

patrickt · #10 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

I shop only at Whole Foods and I'm a Vegan.

Then you should find this of interest.

http://www.slate.com/id/2248998/

rodneym · #11 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Well, if there was ever someone to put out a fire, Chas would be the man. Talk about someone pee'ing on your parade.

Peeing on our parade?
Sounds like bliss

And when ERA Chas said, "They been on my car since 1991", well, actions speak louder than words. Please post those pics!

ERA Chas · #12 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Dumb question. What about organic brake pads? I shop only at Whole Foods and I'm a Vegan.

Dumber question: To eat or to stop with???

Lew Ledyard · #13 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym

OK, doubting Thomas's. It's aint over yet. I just got some answers from Richard @ Halibrand.

1. CSX289 (SAAC forum) wants 4 fronts w/ no gold coloring: Richard said this is not a problem. He will quote seperately when he gets the cost finalized...

I would prefer w/o gold coloring (i.e. polished/satin lip, natural colored centers) but coated with some sort of clear protection as well.

ERA Chas · #14 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew Ledyard

I would prefer w/o gold coloring (i.e. polished/satin lip, natural colored centers) but coated with some sort of clear protection as well.

Duplicolor clear acrylic has held up well for 5 years, but be advised, heat will turn the as -cast centers to a gray under any clear. (See my gallery). And the acrylic can be removed with an acetone or lac thinner rag-powder is much tougher to remove. You can have them bead or walnut blasted every 5 years or so to get close to the original color again.

The key to remember is that they're an organic, living thing and the only constant is change.

RodKnock · #15 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ERA Chas

Duplicolor clear acrylic has held up well for 5 years, but be advised, heat will turn the as -cast centers to a gray under any clear. (See my gallery).

Instead of ERAChas, we should call you AdvisoryChas.

I saw where the Dow 7/dichromate coating saves the wheels from aging, although the lips are left natural and require some maintenance. Not a ton though since the modern casting process per M&A Castings' website states "WITH NEWER HIGH PURITY ALLOYS THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE, CORROSION IS ALMOST NON-EXISTANT (sic)."

Read'em and weep.

Can organic brakes pads be used and do they prevent less of an issue in terms of corrosion?

rodneym · #16 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew Ledyard

I would prefer w/o gold coloring (i.e. polished/satin lip, natural colored centers) but coated with some sort of clear protection as well.

Lew,
Well, we know that Halibrand will take special requests (sorry, patrickt, no dual padded mags

)
When the time comes we'll have to communicate your special needs. So far the requests seem like more of a 'delete' than an addition or special color. No Candy Apple Red requests....so far. Special requests may come with a special price, though

RodKnock · #17 (**permalink**) 12-13-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

You know Rod, even you could clean your air bleeds.

OK, I cleaned my air bleeds yesterday, as you suggested, but now my tires are flat.

I was lucky to get an email per year from Richard, so Rodney is batting 1.000 as far as I'm concerned.

Honestly, as soon as I hear special requests (e.g., turkey, no mustard and onions, but add jalopeno peppers and avocado, light mayo, and if you have dutch crunch bread that would be great), I get the feeling that Richard's eyes may glaze over and shelve the project for another year.