Drag race - Kirkham 65 side-oiler vs Ferrari 458 italia

[kobrabytes]

I think this entire thread is quite entertaining.

Why would you use a Cobra for a drag race car, 99% of them aren't even designed for that. My engine dyno'd at 700 HP, 687 ft lbs of torque, Keith Craft can verify that. The Kirkhams can verify that my Cobra weighs just over 2100lbs, do the math.

I'd love to have the overweight Ferrari show up next to me moving down the road...

Never, never, never use the wrong tool for the wrong job...

bye bye

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by kobrabytes

I'd love to have the overweight Ferrari show up next to me moving down the road...

Never, never, never use the wrong tool for the wrong job...

bye bye

As I'm sure he would love to see you too. With a top speed of 200+ mph, I'd take the Ferrari there too.

I would personally would like to see a 3-way () with an SPF GT40R prepared by Olthoff Racing.

[gthompson]

This thread is pretty interesting. I have a F458 and two Cobra's and after driving both of them for a while, I think that the F458 would win. I would definitely feel a whole lot safer in the F458. Especially, the further that you got towards the end of the quarter mile.

[tin-man]

First off this is a fun thread and has got the attention of a lot of folks, globally. That said, let’s peel this back.......

The Players:
Lawyer: Ferrari 458 Italia.......... NICE
Venture Capitalist; Kirkham 427 Cobra....... AWESOME
Big Bet, Bigger Egos

The Bet:
Lawyer needs take his Venture Capitalist friend 3 out of 3 in the quarter mile.

Arguably the lawyer has what can be viewed as having the edge given he has a new world class "marque", whereas the Venture Capital guy has an older Cobra of which we really don’t know what it has, given we have not asked for definitive details.

So here goes, IMHO, this is a sucker bet and I am sorry to say Tommy you are the mark, and, you took the bait hook line and sinker.

Remember, it was your Venture Capitalist friend who proposed the bet and I'm guessing, as an attorney you are having some second thoughts, particularly if you did not qualify the bet with the term "both cars race as is" ergo, you need to prepare well thus your foray into Club Cobra Forum for advice on what we folks think the Cobra will do.

I also believe your pal, who by the very nature of his job is playing the odds in his favor and will or has already modified his engine enough to give him the edge, all he needs is one win and he walks away with the money, right?

750HP in OZ stated it best:Not knowing the particular car's engine or transmission specs, I'd guess that if your mate nails the second-to-third shift he'll be in front for at least one race.

rodneym also hit the nail on the head when he said: Drag racing has never been Ferrari's forte (obviously) but it means something to them (Launch Control) and they're working hard on it.

tin-man adds:.........particularly if he has stroked up his engine and has considerably more HP that previously.

Remember, using your words, .-- too many unknowns about the Shelby's make-up. In terms of other equipment, he is not allowed to put on drag slicks -- he has some other more standard slicks on it now. The 458 will definitely be using launch control for the perfect start. And I do think he'll practice, and practice pretty hard.

So my bet is that your friend like you is preparing and preparing well by doing whatever he has to do to his car to give him that 1 out of 3 edge.

No doubt, I'm going to hear some flack on this but in the final analysis the Cobra will take you in one race by milliseconds and that is all the your Venture Capitalist pal needs. So without further ado:

Gentlemen, start your engines and may the best man win.

John, AKA, tin-man

[kobrabytes]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

As I'm sure he would love to see you too. With a top speed of 200+ mph, I'd take the Ferrari there too.

I would personally would like to see a 3-way () with an SPF GT40R prepared by Olthoff Racing.

I wouldn't drive anywhere that would be an advantage.

I know of some nice winding roads that torque is king!

NEVER set your self for failure.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by kobrabytes

NEVER set your self for failure.

Words to live by, thanks for the advice.

[RET_COP]

I keep checking the Ferrari site that tom gave the link to, and he has NO responses to his post. I don't get it. I would think that a post like that would get some serious attention, like here. Where are the Ferrari guys!!!???? Tom??????
Why hasn't the Kirkham guy posted here to at least have some fun with us???
I'm just not getting this, but it has made for Great conversation. and alot of fun.
Lou

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by RET_COP

I keep checking the Ferrari site that tom gave the link to, and he has NO responses to his post. I don't get it. I would think that a post like that would get some serious attention, like here. Where are the Ferrari guys!!!????

Where are they? They are all laughing their collective asses off because they know that the only way to be beaten by a full-race Cobra is if driven by a full-race driver. The 458 has so many technological advantages that it will take a perfect run by the Kirkham to stay with it. Period. The Cobra was great for its time, and still holds its own against most modern cars. But the 458 resets the highbar, and at a level that only the most skilled driver in anything else can reach. It's game over.

[Silverback51]

Does anyone know the 0-100-0 time for the 458?