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View Poll Results: Who will win the race - March 8, LV Speedway
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The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3
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The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 1
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The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 2 or 3
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The 458 Italia is beatable, but the Cobra's driver isn't good enough, so it loses all 3
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The Italia's driver messes up, so it loses at least 1
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02-09-2011, 09:16 AM
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We haven't publicly said what the bet is; it's a lot.
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02-09-2011, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommygold
We haven't publicly said what the bet is; it's a lot.
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Since we're speculating on everything else.....
Well, the logic isn't sound  , but if the IRS charges a 10% penalty for filing late taxes, I would say that the bet is $500,000, if there's a $50,000 penalty. 
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02-09-2011, 06:37 PM
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WOW! You guys bought this "high stakes race" hook, line, and sinker  Step back, look at the big picture, none of it adds up. Cobra owner who is a "rookie with slicks" bwahahaha! Ferrari owner comes to the clubcobra asking for opinions Inconsistencies all over the place, there will never be a race nor was there one ever planned. Just two guys jerking your chain and getting one big hoot out of it!
Hey jokers, being the buds that you are, post a pic of your cars side by side with you two next to 'em, yeah should be no problem! 
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02-09-2011, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli
WOW! You guys bought this "high stakes race" hook, line, and sinker  Step back, look at the big picture, none of it adds up. Cobra owner who is a "rookie with slicks" bwahahaha! Ferrari owner comes to the clubcobra asking for opinions Inconsistencies all over the place, there will never be a race nor was there one ever planned. Just two guys jerking your chain and getting one big hoot out of it!
Hey jokers, being the buds that you are, post a pic of your cars side by side with you two next to 'em, yeah should be no problem! 
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Even if what you say is true....
We don't care... and are enjoying the thread regardless!
Why are people such skeptics and haters?
Life's short... indulge yourself a little  
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02-09-2011, 08:57 PM
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02-09-2011, 09:17 PM
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Probably true, easier to talk to yourself when engaged in a fantasy. Listen to this "big time lawyer" whine ...
Machiavelli - you are as stupid as much as you are a jerk.
But I just don't have any interest in doing that on a site populated by such an ass, even when everyone else on the site recognizes that's what you are
Wow, now he speaks for the thread! What does this "big time lawyer" do when someone challenges one of those pipe dreams that make into the court room
Tommy, you want some cheese with that WHINE lol
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02-09-2011, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
Probably true, easier to talk to yourself when engaged in a fantasy. Listen to this "big time lawyer" whine ...
Machiavelli - you are as stupid as much as you are a jerk.
But I just don't have any interest in doing that on a site populated by such an ass, even when everyone else on the site recognizes that's what you are
Wow, now he speaks for the thread! What does this "big time lawyer" do when someone challenges one of those pipe dreams that make into the court room
Tommy, you want some cheese with that WHINE lol
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Hmmm... It's one thing to be an ass...it's an entirely different thing to attack lawyers.
Enjoy a few days off while you consider the relevance of your existence, which is somewhat in doubt.

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02-09-2011, 11:32 PM
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... Big Brother was here
BAN! (comments not wanted, and posts deleted)
Apperently it is ok to post negative comments - as long as they do not go against moderator's view... moderator is free to be rude
Heil to the "freedom of speach"
... and then you wonder why "rest of the world" sometimes have a problem with the "US beeing world Police"
(this post will be gone in minutes... = the second a moderator discover it)
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Reason: over and out
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02-09-2011, 09:56 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Originally Posted by henrik
Ref. the "real name" game... My real name is Henrik VIII - King of England - and you can Google me 
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Henrik, I just did, got an error message that said "his majesty is out to lunch"...sorry pal, I could not resist that. No harm, no foul..........ok?  
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with "some" members being all involved... even talking about flying in for the race... wait a minute, I resemble that remark 
Look at it this way Henrik, I have asked for explicit shedules of this event and thus once published it can be confirmed, ya? sooooo, even if it gets cancelled at the eleventh hour and Buzz and me are in Vegas at the race track looking at each other and wondering WTF, we'll still have fun, get drunk and have a good time and then I go and pick up my Cobra, whata hoot. Yep, theres no downside to this one, my wifey gets to stay in Zhuhai and I get to visit Vegas, wink, wink, wink.
Plus we'll even look up Dan, belt down some more booze and get some tips on playin' da game.....from da man.
It don't get no better than this, ya?
Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man, Zhuhai P.R.C.
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02-09-2011, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tommygold
We haven't publicly said what the bet is; it's a lot.
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Given Tommy's comments above, I erased may previous post, too bad this has been one hellova a ride.
Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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02-09-2011, 07:42 PM
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That's right Tommy, you run along now, 'bout past your bedtime anyway lol.
Figured that "post a pic of your cars side by side with you two next to 'em" would be a show stopper!
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02-09-2011, 08:10 PM
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Machiavelli - you are as stupid as much as you are a jerk. As the people who have read the thread will gladly explain, my car is in Washington, DC and Dan's car is in Las Vegas, NV. My car gets picked up by Interstate Auto Transport next week. That makes it really, really hard to take a picture side by side.I gladly would have taken a picture with the longstanding Club Cobra member who is coming to my time trials at the drag strip at the Maryland Speedway Monday and who was supplying the camera for the 458. But I just don't have any interest in doing that on a site populated by such an ass, even when everyone else on the site recognizes that's what you are.
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02-09-2011, 08:22 PM
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Tommy, in the words of a famous philosopher... "Machiavelli, Scmachiavelli" 
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02-09-2011, 09:20 PM
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For Tommy Goldstein...............
Tom, in my humble opinion, Machiavelli is a majority of one. That said, there were several people during the early stages of this thread expressed their opinions regarding the veracity of this race and the players involved, however after confirmation from Keith, being a known third party and a highly respected member of this site, scepticism was generally abated and this became a live and entertaining thread given the posts and visit count and one that a lot of CC folks have apparent interest in seeing it reach fruition. So while you have stated we will not get to see the results nor see the visuals of the race can you at least give all of us who want to see this happen the opportunity of knowing the exact date and times when this will go down.
Reason for the request is that 25th of Feb was discussed by you and Dan indicated March 2 so hope this point can be ratified and published for those folks who intend to see the event in person, me being one plus whoever else is so inclined.
Thanks, John, AKA, tin-man, Zhuhai, P.R.C.
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02-09-2011, 09:31 PM
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Hope you didn't buy a plane ticket! Now that you "know" Tommy, does some of his 1st comments still add up to the interesting transgression of personality that has transpired now that he has you reeled in?
A buddy has a beloved Kirkham side-oiler Cobra, on slicks.
He is an inexperienced driver of the Cobra at speed.
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02-09-2011, 08:20 PM
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For Dan Bilzerian...............
its unfortunate that Tommy dropped out, thus not sure if you are still in and needing advise from the forum members, Machivelli's comments nothwithstanding?
For those of us who are following this thread being the majority of folks that represent the 409 posts and 18,609 visits it would be a shame to let this go and drop communicating due to a few individuals comments.
Up to now, this has been one most entertaining thread and a hellova blast. IMHO folks......
John, AKA, tin-man, Zhuhai P.R.C.
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