Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1361063)

So I can't join a Ferrari club or a Corvette Club or a Porsche Club without owning one? Really?

Originally Posted by Al G (Post 1361059)

You're confusing what cars they welcome at SAAC events and what cars they include in the registry. Read it again.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug (Post 1111810)

I actually don't like the term "kit car". When asked, I tell people it's a replica. They get it. If they want to know more, I tell them I built it myself and they're usually impressed.

Most people ask because they are genuinely curious. They may be impressed with the car, but would like to determine if they are actually in the presence of a 60's vintage legend.

Nope. Just in the presence of an outrageously cool car.

DD

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1361077)

No, I got it the first time $$ CHA-CHING! They include in the registry "virtually all high performance Ford-powered cars including Tigers, Mangustas and Panteras, Boss 302, 351 and 429 Mustangs, AC Mk IVs, Cobra 4000s, Mustangs of every year including the latest generation of Shelby GTs and GT500s, Griffiths, Italias, Galaxies, Fairlanes, Comets and yes—even Cobra kit cars".

What a joke :LOL:

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1360963)

As to the "angst" many owners have that don't own real Cobras (original series or continuation series) my official recommendation is that in response to "the question" regardless of whether it's phrased "is it a kit", "is it real" or "is it a replica" the simple response is "it's a pretend Cobra" or "it's a tribute Cobra". Either will work.

As to continuation series owners, they don't need any help since they have no angst in dealing with "the question". At least I don't. The answer for us is rather simple..."Its a continuation series Shelby Cobra". Without fail people are in awe of the Shelby and ask about the car. Unfortunately the interest generated, the photos, videos etc usually cause delays in my excursions. In fact, just happened again today at DMV. The minute they learn it's a Shelby...sheesh.

Originally Posted by jhv48 (Post 1361142)

Even though what Evan says is factually true, he intentionally misleads the inquisitor into thinking they are looking at an original, 60's era, Shelby Cobra.
I think we all can agree that when asked "the question", the inquisitor is really asking whether or not they are in the presence of an original, 60's era, Shelby Cobra.

Based on that assumption, the correct answer to "the question" would be: "It's not an original Shelby Cobra. It's a Shelby Continuation Series Cobra."

Evan, if you don't like all the attention your car generates every time you park it, then tell the WHOLE truth when someone asks "the question" and then spend the next few minutes explaining what a continuation series is.
Intentionally misleading those that care to ask is beneath you. If you are truly proud of your car, as you should be, don't embellish its pedigree by trying to glom onto the fame of the originals.
Yours is a remake of the original, not an original. Be proud and educate those that care to ask. And don't try to justify your answer by saying that you are merely answering their question. We all know what they truly want to know, and your misleading answer is beneath you.

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1361179)

Pedigree is the same.

Originally Posted by mullen2 (Post 1361206)

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The way I see it. Don't think I have heard of a better analogy.

1960's (Original) Rolex Submariner - (Continuation) New Rolex Submariner

Both are genuine Rolex Submariners. There are plenty of knock offs for much less but bring them into a Rolex dealer and they quickly tell you its not a Rolex. Same can be done with a inspection of a Shelby Cobra by a qualified Shelby expert and by referencing its CSX vin # via the Registry.

I apply the same logic to the (Original) Shelby Cobras and the Aluminum (Continuations). Both similar in nature with same company building them. Im sure there aren't many employees left building new Rolexes that built the first original Submariners, but the company still makes Genuine name brand m, product today. The early (Original) Rolex Submariners are very coveted by the collectors who own the handful of them out there. Some own both. "In house movement" may apply some how as well to this analogy...LOL

Sorry to add another line in this never ending topic. After seeing it at the top of the page the last few times I opened the site, I had to click on it, and for fun add my 2 Cents.

In all reality we will all be dead or close to it in 40 years who knows what the cars may or may not be worth then. Im pretty sure none of us will be right if we guessed today. What ever we own, we own because we liked it enough to step up and buy it, who cares what anyone else thinks. Drive the hell out of it and have fun! Cheers boys!

Originally Posted by mullen2 (Post 1361206)

Attachment 26297

The way I see it. Don't think I have heard of a better analogy.

1960's (Original) Rolex Submariner - (Continuation) New Rolex Submariner

Both are genuine Rolex Submariners. There are plenty of knock offs for much less but bring them into a Rolex dealer and they quickly tell you its not a Rolex. Same can be done with a inspection of a Shelby Cobra by a qualified Shelby expert and by referencing its CSX vin # via the Registry.

I apply the same logic to the (Original) Shelby Cobras and the Aluminum (Continuations). Both similar in nature with same company building them. Im sure there aren't many employees left building new Rolexes that built the first original Submariners, but the company still makes Genuine name brand product today. The early (Original) Rolex Submariners are very coveted by the collectors who own the handful of them out there. Some own both. "In house movement" may apply some how as well to this analogy...LOL

Sorry to add another line in this never ending topic. After seeing it at the top of the page the last few times I opened the site, I had to click on it, and for fun add my 2 Cents.

In all reality we will all be dead or close to it in 40 years who knows what the cars may or may not be worth then. Im pretty sure none of us will be right if we guessed today. What ever we own, we own because we liked it enough to step up and buy it, who cares what anyone else thinks. Drive the hell out of it and have fun! Cheers boys!

Originally Posted by fleiss75 (Post 1111777)

I have about 100 miles on my car and it's so much fun driving. Most people are great but I have had a few that scream out the window "Is it real or a kit?" How do you respond to that? I mostly laugh and then leave them in the rear view mirror, but I put so much time and money into this car I find that question so annoying.

Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1361219)

Evan, here it comes. ;)

I'm not a "watch person" and know nothing about them. And I don't wear them. But the newer Rolex is CLEARLY A REPLICA. Same logic. IMO.

First, a watch is obviously not a car. Watches don't have to meet Federal safety and emissions regulations, which have dramatically changed automobiles over the past 50 years. If the watch was regulated by the Federal government, then watches would be completely different, even a Rolex.

Second, I'm going to assume that the watch building process and materials have changed over the last 30-50 years, no? The older Rolex is likely made differently using different metallurgy. So are the modern Shelby Cobra replicas. Does the newer Rolex use OEM parts and building processes from the 1960's?

Third, "coveted schmuveted." The older Rolex worth 5-10x more than the newer Rolex? 1960's Cobras are worth $1,000,000-$5,000,000. The most expensive Shelby replica will be the Resurrection Cobras at $500,000 per copy with $50,000 going to charity according to the press release. The 4000 series replicas are roughly $200,000+/-.

Fourth, did Rolex stop building watches for 30 years and change it corporate entity? Carroll Shelby International/Shelby American did.

Different processes, different company, different employees, different parts, and built 30-50 years after the original.

The modern Shelbys are replicas as are the modern Rolexes. To me anyway.

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1361220)

This is the original post (above)
Until less than a week ago, this was a four and a half year old thread.
You guys have too much time on your hands :LOL: :LOL:

Cheers,
Glen

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1361246)

Oey vey. You really should change your user name to "Curmudgeon" :LOL:

You also need to go back and "null and void" your above strained "analysis" (you really struggled with this one didn't you. Must have been painful :LOL:) which is laced with "assumptions", "I don't know" and statements of the obvious such as the gem that a watch is not a car.

Please explain to us how a gap in manufacturing "null and voids" the analogy. If Tom Kirkham shut production down and decided to manufacture duck decoys for 10 years and then decided to come back and restart Kirkham with new employees now having to source parts and components from new sources and use German aluminum and starting making Kirkham Cobras again would they not be real Kirkham Cobras?

Also, also to follow your logic (if we can call it that) new Indian Motorcycles are not Indian Motorcycles just the originals from 50 years ago?

The higher price that people will pay more for the older classic ones is based on rarity and the fact they are part of a set definite pool. People also pay more for new Rolexs from Rolex than fake Rolexs from the guy on the street in NYC don't they. People also pay more for current series Shelby Cobras from SAI then they pay for an LA Exotic, Unique etc.. that are fake Shelby Cobras.

Maybe you need to stop "squinting your eyes so hard" and open them. :MECOOL: