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06-21-2011, 01:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Sun City West,,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Originally Posted by xb-60
Ah, tin-man. The mood is bleck, very bleck…
You are definitely correct though…. it should never have happened. 78 miles!! What happened to the product testing? Why would these guys be happy to release to the customer an untested, unproven powertrain package? Not as if they hadn’t had the time to do it. Cheers, John! Glen
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Hi Glen, yes my mood is bleck and very bleck and right now I feel like a very mean plick and want satisfaction and am biding my time to see what these guys do to cover up a F*CK**G PUBLIC RELATIONS DISASTER.
That said they have been very reactive to the issues and I suspect I will eventually get my satisfaction.
The preliminary probable cause has been attributed to a loose screw in the distributor that caused some bracket to malfunction and thus the car would not start. Erick Voss cranked the car, diagnosed the issue, fixed it, and drove the car off the transporter. Go figure huh, a F*CK**G SCREW. That said the transmission linkage still needs to be looked at to see if the was any sustained damage to the linkage components.
Roush have sorted the hi-idle for a 427 Windsor, but have yet to get the 511 sorted. Well they got six month to do that since I'm outa here tomorrow and heading back to China.
The hi-low shifting will be sorted by Compushift after extensive road testing and tweaking. This has been confirmed by Mark Bowler.
Eric Voss is performing all the diagnostics and reports back his findings to Bowler and Roush.
Lance Stander of Hillbank has graciously agreed to perform some extensive road testing on my behalf to shake any other bugs he finds as he puts the engine and transmission thru their paces and if any issues crop up its back to the drawing board. He did say, and this is what type of guy he is, when all has been sorted he will then store my car in his showroom awaiting my return at Christmas.
Now this is the type of service and attention that makes for a world class company and is why I chose a Superformance Mk111.
We move forward.
tin-man
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06-21-2011, 01:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 351
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Originally Posted by tin-man
Lance Stander of Hillbank has graciously agreed to perform some extensive road testing on my behalf to shake any other bugs he finds as he puts the engine and transmission thru their paces and if any issues crop up its back to the drawing board. He did say, and this is what type of guy he is, when all has been sorted he will then store my car in his showroom awaiting my return at Christmas.
Now this is the type of service and attention that makes for a world class company and is why I chose a Superformance Mk111.
tin-man
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Jack
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06-21-2011, 01:52 PM
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GEAR GRINDER CUM LAUDE
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Murray,
KY
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1560 w/ Ford Racing [RDI/AFR/RPM] Alum. 427CI - 575HP & TKO
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I just love stories with happy endings.
Let's all hope the Big Guys can figure out the problems.
TL 
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06-21-2011, 01:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Originally Posted by tin-man
The preliminary probable cause has been attributed to a loose screw in the distributor that caused some bracket to malfunction and thus the car would not start.
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A loose screw?!? One friggin' screw? That's actually pretty funny. 
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06-21-2011, 02:57 PM
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Not if it was in your neck fusion
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A loose screw?!? One friggin' screw? That's actually pretty funny. 
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06-21-2011, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Syracuse,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary classics 3041,sbc 350(have no fear ford guys for there is a FE 428 in the garage waiting to be rebuilt & installed) but for now she is a driver while other projects take precidence.
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Not if it was in your neck fusion 
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Took mine for it's first test drive today with the golf clubs....a bunch of wedges, a bunch of 8 irons and about 20 drivers and both of my screws seem to be holding their position. No moving brackets and everything starts up fine
70k for the drivetrain  Somewhere out there is a well sorted high end ERA or a nice Kirkham doing this...
Glad the ball is rolling in the right direction Tin-man.....
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06-21-2011, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide,
SA
Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Hmmm, Lance Stander is involved now. There is more incentive there now for it to be fixed quickly and properly.
It still may happen, John, that Roush/Bowler/Voss say yes this is what actually happened, we did it wrong, we're sorry, we will fix it for you John, better than new. They could actually turn it around to be a positive thing for themselves as well as fixing it to your satisfaction. A positive PR action rather than a PR nightmare.
Will that happen? Up to you, Roush/Bowler/Voss.
Best wishes John.
Cheers,
Glen
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06-21-2011, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale,
Az
Cobra Make, Engine: Black CSX 4910, Roush 511 8 stack
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Nothing against Voss performance as I dont know them and have never dealt with them and I hope they provide the level of support needed to get this fixed asap. Stepping up is delivering a car that runs more than 78 miles before it breaks. Stepping up is not trying to point the fingers at everyone else and getting it fixed. For Tin Man's sake I hope you do that. When you spend $100-130K on a car I would expect it can do more than ride around the block, complex or not. An auto trans to a big block isnt rocket science but this 511 seems to elude the smartest people in engine building how to mkae it reliable.
I have a V-8 as the commercial goes but for the $40K plus anyone looking to spend that much on an engine should call KC about a SOHC. It just wasnt available 2 1/2 years ago.
People are smoking crack if they think Roush "steps up" to make things right.Only after months and months and threats of lawsuits do we get a flawed engine back that after 1700 milesand 2 1/2 years is still not sorted out. You are barking up the wrong tree here in Phoenix if you think you will find a supporter of Roush and the 511 here. There are too many of us that have had to deal with them on this motor to EVER reccomend it.
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