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06-13-2012, 04:11 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PHC1
Quick question, any cooling issues with the iron sleeved aluminum blocks?
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Not if you keep your car in the garage like I do.
There are no known cooling issues related to the Shelby or Pond aluminum blocks.
My holy grail is an all-aluminum SOHC engine. I don't want or need any 50-year old cast iron parts.
BTW, Robert Pond is now in the testing stage of his new aluminum SOHC heads. 
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06-13-2012, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Not if you keep your car in the garage like I do.
There are no known cooling issues related to the Shelby or Pond aluminum blocks.
My holy grail is an all-aluminum SOHC engine. I don't want or need any 50-year old cast iron parts.
BTW, Robert Pond is now in the testing stage of his new aluminum SOHC heads. 
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Good one!
So Shelby or Pond no problem, good to know!
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06-13-2012, 04:46 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: McAllen,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Butler...488" hi-rise, dry-sump FE s/o w/stacks
Posts: 543
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Keith Craft will sell you one today for $38,000. Well known highly respected builder..all aluminum Pond block with Coon heads, Dove 2x4 manifold and ready to pump out big horsepower.
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06-13-2012, 04:58 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
AR
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
Posts: 4,533
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I remember reading in Colin Comer's book that early CSX 3000 street cars used 427 center oilers before the 428 blocks. Are you sure any street roadsters actually came with side oilers? Maybe after they switched back to 427s?
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06-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Des Moines,
IA
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my beloved Shelby CSX 4068, Gessford 427 Ford
Posts: 756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
I remember reading in Colin Comer's book that early CSX 3000 street cars used 427 center oilers before the 428 blocks. Are you sure any street roadsters actually came with side oilers? Maybe after they switched back to 427s?
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Good catch. The old wives' tale that "all 427 Cobras came with a side oiler" is my pick for the most-repeated lie about Cobras.
The truth is that a few more than 300 427 Cobras were made, and that the mix of engines was roughly 1/3 center oilers, 1/3 428 PIs, and 1/3 side oilers. So that 428 or center oiler is just as correct as the hallowed side oiler.
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06-14-2012, 02:59 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Windham,,
Me
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You need an FE if you really think you need an FE.As far as sound any motor with a given displacement of 427" will give you that sound you crave.Whatever you decide for style of block or ci make certain you have it built by someone with the experience and understands what you want for performance.Good Luck
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06-14-2012, 03:38 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdross1
As far as sound any motor with a given displacement of 427" will give you that sound you crave.
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Not true. The sound of a big block does not come from the size of the space in the cylinders, but rather it comes from the size and shape of the metal of the block. Just like a bell, it's not the size of the "hole" that makes up the underside of the bell, it's the size of the crown, waist, soundbow, etc that makes up the bell itself. I have never heard, or felt the sound, of a small block that was the same as a big block. Now, I firmly believe you can make a SB just as powerful as a BB, but you can never make it sound the same, anymore than you can make a small bell make the same sound as a big bell. 
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