"Sorting out" Issues...

[mln385]

Shouldn't ones expectations be higher with a turnkey car from an assembled Manufacturer such as BDR or Superformance etc. After all isn't that part of the sales pitch on these types?

The OP has a newer BDR so one would suspect the car should be fairly well built no?

[jhv48]

One would expect that, yes.

But then one would be greatly disappointed.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by mln385

Shouldn't ones expectations be higher with a turnkey car from an assembled Manufacturer such as BDR or Superformance etc. After all isn't that part of the sales pitch on these types?

The OP has a newer BDR so one would suspect the car should be fairly well built no?

Better than most? Yes. Perfect? No.

I have seen very few FACTORY related issues on chassis' that have been properly dealer prepped and road tested. Most issues are powertrain related or due to an "improvement" made by the installer.

Thing not caused by the factory we have seen or are aware of:
-Electrical problem caused by splicing into a wire with a 3M "Scotchlock" connector (these are a crime against nature)
-Oil leak due to poor routing of hoses.
-Heater hose failure due to routing against sharp edge and no restraint to prevent hose from chafing on edge
-Use of racing type electric fuel pump, you know the one intended for a drag car that runs 90 seconds total? The ones that overheat and fail when expected to pump for 350 miles?

And so on. A well FINISHED car will have few problems and all will need a re-tune, etc. after a few hundred miles of run in.

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by mln385

Shouldn't ones expectations be higher with a turnkey car from an assembled Manufacturer such as BDR or Superformance etc. After all isn't that part of the sales pitch on these types?

The OP has a newer BDR so one would suspect the car should be fairly well built no?

Amen, brother let's add Shelby American and their dealers/turn key/ installer to your list.
CSX 8050

[Al G]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

Amen, brother let's add Shelby American and their dealers/turn key/ installer to your list.
CSX 8050

Why don't you do a service to potential buyers as well as all the innocent dealers by naming who you are so unhappy with?

[Tutosnake]

Originally Posted by Al G

Why don't you do a service to potential buyers as well as all the innocent dealers by naming who you are so unhappy with?

I echo that. BTW I enjoy the same view as Mark IV. As a CSX buyer, all the research I did before ordering my car led me to believe that unless you legally created two or more completely distinct entities to handle the affair, the AD shall not finish the car. After all, in the SAI case, didn't it use be that way? Does anybody knows the facts about that? Why did SAI steered away from allowing the AD's to finish the cars they sold?

Anyways, I have had my car for 2.5 months now. It has 480 miles, and I had to fix a dead fuel gauge (sending unit replaced), and tighten oil lines (leaks). I used a local mechanic for those without problem. It also came with a busted wiper blade/arm, but who really cares about that! I will leave it the way it is... just re-adjust it before I go out on a ride so that people don't notice it.

Only one thing KILLS me: the car came with paint damage on the edge of the engine bay that SAI touched up very poorly. I admit it is in a relatively inconspicuous area but it drives me crazy every time I raise the hood. The car went directly from Las Vegas to Olthoff Racing, so you can imagine it would be almost impossible (not enough time and patience ) for me to make any claims...

I am happy with my car. I would do it all over again in the same fashion, hoping that whoever scratched the engine bay did not cross path with my car a second time

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Tutosnake

... all the research I did before ordering my car led me to believe that unless you legally created two or more completely distinct entities to handle the affair...

Everything I've ever heard was that Louisiana's law is neither black nor white... it's green.

[Tutosnake]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Everything I've ever heard was that Louisiana's law is neither black nor white... it's green.

PATRICK!!! Been missing you, you omniscient one You are SOOOO correct. It is not Louisiana Law unless it is crooked. However, I had to go out of state to place an order, so I had to behave and abide by more reliable/solid rules:roll eyes:

[stephen_becker]

[quote=Tutosnake;1225943]I echo that. BTW I enjoy the same view as Mark IV. As a CSX buyer, all the research I did before ordering my car led me to believe that unless you legally created two or more completely distinct entities to handle the affair, the AD shall not finish the car. After all, in the SAI case, didn't it use be that way? Does anybody knows the facts about that? Why did SAI steered away from allowing the AD's to finish the cars they sold?

We were always advised by SAI (CSBI) legal to have a seperate selling ententy (component/roller car) and a seperate servicing/parts/ company.

I do not know the reason for this but we complied with their across the board demand (on all factory-authorized Shelby Cobra dealerships)

I did ask CS before he passed why SAI does not install the drive-trains and he gave me two answers

1) Feds will not allow that to happen as the car is considered a 1965 on the MSO

2) He did not want the liability of the install and what might go wrong in the hear-after with the car

I do not know if you all know but SAI puts a six month, six thounds mile warranty on the CSX cars BUT the warranty starts the day I pick the car up at the SAI factory NOT the day the customer receives the car!! That is a policy that has always irked me

[REAL 1]

I think it has to do with federal law and regs that if the car is built all in one location with drive train it will have to meet current DOT and NHSTA safety and emissions.

You didn't have theses issues in 1965.