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Old 06-11-2014, 05:44 PM
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I own one of the early CSX1000 cars where the body was hand hammered by AC on some of the original wooden bucks before the deal between Shelby and AC fell apart. The cars were shipped to Shelby from england to be finished. Took way more than two years from the time the cars were ordered. I think only the first 14 of the 1000 series had hand hammered aluminum bodes by AC.

I paid well north of 300K for my car because of its rarity and quality. Also because Carroll was directly involved with making the 1000 cars happen, keeping them true to the original heritage even wearing AC Cobra badging on the nose.

In my opinion, the Aluminum 4000 cars built in the living years are approaching the 200K mark, maybe not yet but soon.
Your car is a rare Continuation Cobra for sure. The peanut gallery here is what it is. I agree that the early alloy Continuation Cobras and others special Shelby's will bring a premium especially in the future if the hobby endures. The early cars had many details the current ones do not have along with being at SAI when CS was there and very much involved.

Rocknock: it matters not a wit to me whether you believe me or not. Many factors and information suppied here by others support increasing values on alloy Shelby Cobras and my own experience bears this out to me. You not so much. I get it.
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Your car is a rare Continuation Cobra for sure. The peanut gallery here is what it is. I agree that the early alloy Continuation Cobras and others special Shelby's will bring a premium especially in the future if the hobby endures. The early cars had many details the current ones do not have along with being at SAI when CS was there and very much involved.
I think a lot of interesting tidbits have come to the surface if you can swim through the muck.

I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.

Interesting thing about when Bill Harrah had his guys scour the countryside, his big interest was the first one made or the last one made in a series. That along with very rare cars. That's why I asked about CSX 1001.

I would be interested to hear what details are on those early Cobras that are not being produced in later generations.

What hold on for a second you mean those early Cobras being associated with CS are closer to originals? Then Real1's may be closer to a fakeydoo Cobra than he thinks. Only joking but I hear better than yours coming through all the time so the early ones are better than others in your opinion?
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I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.
I had an AC Autokraft. It was a beautifully crafted car.
But if it was built on original bucks, then Angliss (or someone else) changed them.

As far as the lightweights, I don't know. Rick (Mark IV) would.
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I had an AC Autokraft. It was a beautifully crafted car.
But if it was built on original bucks, then Angliss (or someone else) changed them.

As far as the lightweights, I don't know. Rick (Mark IV) would.
I have some great photos of the Bucks and some of the original tooling at AC in England when the CSX1000 cars were being built there. Also talked with some of the guys that worked there. I was told some of the original AC workers were involved with the first 14 CSX 1000 cars as well as family members of the men who built the cars in the 1960's.

I can't figure how to post them here. Probably should open a new thread if I can figure how to post them. This one is too long.
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I have some great photos of the Bucks and some of the original tooling at AC in England when the CSX1000 cars were being built there. Also talked with some of the guys that worked there. I was told some of the original AC workers were involved with the first 14 CSX 1000 cars as well as family members of the men who built the cars in the 1960's.

I can't figure how to post them here. Probably should open a new thread if I can figure how to post them. This one is too long.

Yeah I always have an assistant or someone around to help out but sometimes I like to do some stuff myself. I opened a flickr account real easy for me to post pics.
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I have some great photos of the Bucks and some of the original tooling at AC in England when the CSX1000 cars were being built there. Also talked with some of the guys that worked there. I was told some of the original AC workers were involved with the first 14 CSX 1000 cars as well as family members of the men who built the cars in the 1960's.

I can't figure how to post them here. Probably should open a new thread if I can figure how to post them. This one is too long.
Email them to me.
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I have some great photos of the Bucks and some of the original tooling at AC in England when the CSX1000 cars were being built there. Also talked with some of the guys that worked there. I was told some of the original AC workers were involved with the first 14 CSX 1000 cars as well as family members of the men who built the cars in the 1960's.

I can't figure how to post them here. Probably should open a new thread if I can figure how to post them. This one is too long.
Pretty neat. Do you have pics you can post?
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I think a lot of interesting tidbits have come to the surface if you can swim through the muck.

I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.

Interesting thing about when Bill Harrah had his guys scour the countryside, his big interest was the first one made or the last one made in a series. That along with very rare cars. That's why I asked about CSX 1001.

I would be interested to hear what details are on those early Cobras that are not being produced in later generations.

What hold on for a second you mean those early Cobras being associated with CS are closer to originals? Then Real1's may be closer to a fakeydoo Cobra than he thinks. Only joking but I hear better than yours coming through all the time so the early ones are better than others in your opinion?
Hard for me to follow. You speak in strange tongue.

Yes, you could say my Cobra is closer to fakeydoo than CSX1000 if you like and if that makes CC member happy but it is still no fakeydoo so no cigar.
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Hard for me to follow. You speak in strange tongue.

Yes, you could say my Cobra is closer to fakeydoo than CSX1000 if you like and if that makes CC member happy but it is still no fakeydoo so no cigar.

Well I think it's in proper English.

1. What are the details in the early CSX 1000's that are not in the later generation continuations. You mentioned this re-read your earlier post.
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Well I think it's in proper English.

1. What are the details in the early CSX 1000's that are not in the later generation continuations. You mentioned this re-read your earlier post.
CSX 1000 is just a more expensive model, not an earlier generation. For a brief period of time the post Angliss version of AC managed to produce some frames and bodies for Shelby. The very first one was actually a complete roller.
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Well I think it's in proper English.

1. What are the details in the early CSX 1000's that are not in the later generation continuations. You mentioned this re-read your earlier post.
No I said early continuations vary from later ones. I was not referring to the 1000 series.

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I could never do business with most here. Clearly no ability to have a meeting of the minds with those that can't be bothered with facts, the law and authoritative sources.
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Evan,
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Your car is beautiful. It is You that makes it a POS.





UOTE=REAL 1;1306015]No I said early continuations vary from later ones. I was not referring to the 1000 series.

JBCobra: Then I fit in perfectly here.


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C'mon guys, we don't have to resort to name calling.

Or do we?
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