looking for a cobra for france

salasvegas · #1 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 04:06 AM

Hi,
Im looking for an hold ac cobra to renove.
I'm french, and a real fan of this car, but my budget is a bit short, and I would love restaure my cobra like I dream it.
It's why I ring your for find a car used car, more than 30 years old, but with a ford engine.
Please help help help

Thanks, flo.

FatBoy · #2 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 04:32 AM

Welcome,

I assume you are looking for a replica rather than an original.

If it needs to be over 30 years old, your options are likely to be limited. An early Contemporary may be suitable.

Paul

salasvegas · #3 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 08:33 AM

The problem is about the french papers, over 30 years old it's a collection car.
I think that a unique motor are old as well.

Dwight · #4 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 08:35 AM

We have a Unique completed in 1991 with a KC 1965 427 side oiler that I think will title in France.

Dwight algunruner@aol.com

lamaluv · #5 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 11:41 AM

This car can be exported to any country that requires 30 years old.

E.R.A. 427SC Cobra EXP002, Guards Red, For Sale

mrmustang · #6 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by salasvegas

The problem is about the french papers, over 30 years old it's a collection car.
I think that a unique motor are old as well.

I've sold two kit cars in to France in the past, unless things have changed in the last three years, I believe that the car needs to be titled as a 30+ year old car here in the states for it to get through customs properly. In fact there is a FFR that just sold on Ebay that is headed to France. Lime green one out of the Miami area.

Bill S.

lamaluv · #7 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmustang

I've sold two kit cars in to France in the past, unless things have changed in the last three years, I believe that the car needs to be titled as a 30+ year old car here in the states for it to get through customs properly. In fact there is a FFR that just sold on Ebay that is headed to France. Lime green one out of the Miami area.

Bill S.

So Bill to sell in France all that is required in a current tittle showing over 30 years old vs. a title or registration from over 30 years ago. Current title showing 1966 Cobra is OK for export to France. Several people that have contacted me from overseas regarding my car have specifically told me that current title is not enough proof for their government regarding importation.

Dick

mrmustang · #8 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lamaluv

So Bill to sell in France all that is required in a current tittle showing over 30 years old vs. a title or registration from over 30 years ago. Current title showing 1966 Cobra is OK for export to France. Several people that have contacted me from overseas regarding my car have specifically told me that current title is not enough proof for their government regarding importation.

Dick

Canada, Australia, Sweden, certain parts of Russia, are all countries that specify "proof of manufacture" and not just "titled as". France I am not certain as it has been 3 years and a lot has most likely changed since then. These changes are usually brought about by one person (remember how the downfall of Titles Unlimited happened in California) attempting to either register it as a classic, or not pay his/her proper share of the taxes. It forces the government to then carefully scrutinize any car of a similar nature coming in to their country.

Bill S.

lamaluv · #9 (**permalink**) 09-29-2013, 01:40 PM

Thanks for the clarification Bill. This sounds like a buyer beware situation. If they don't do it correctly they could be the proud owner of a car they couldn't get into their country or at least couldn't own as cheaply as anticipated after taxes and penalties.

Dick

salasvegas · #10 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 12:58 AM

The age of the car is important in france, cause of the importation taxes, and the the driving registration.
So, if the car title say for exemple cobra 1966, but the car is build after, the real age of it is this.
In this case, we have to do s ome modification for the car is a load to ride in france, like sound, pipe, turning light....
So it's very expensive it's the reason for i'm looking for a old replica

ha_pe_1968 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 04:48 AM

Hi!

If you buy a car which is older then 30 years and you have the papers which tells that and the right numbers on drivetrain and chassis then you can be sure that you will get a registry. If you have a newer car with a 30 year old title you can have luck - but you will have no guarantee. If someone import a car for you and tell you that there is no problem - take care that you not pay the full amount before the registry and be sure that you have a contract on a paper!!

Peter

Corky · #12 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 05:34 AM

I recently sold my ERA to an importer in KY to be shipped to France. My title was as a 1964 Ford PA registration ERA2011. The new owner sent me several photos and a video of him driving the car around the countryside with a 427. All went well and as far as I know no problem with registration. One part of the video shows him attaching his liscense on the front of the car as a decale.
Corky

ha_pe_1968 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 07:47 AM

Hi Corky!

Absolutely, you can have luck - but as i told before: you do not have a guarantee.
The worst case szenario is that you have to pay a lot of taxes for a newer car and will not have any chance for a registry without catalytic, noise level in the 75dB range.....
Can you imagine this bunch of troubles? And by the way...the worst case is more and more the common way.

Peter

lamaluv · #14 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 08:15 AM

So the solution is to be safe and buy a car that is over 30 years old as well as registered as a 1966. Like this one. E.R.A. 427SC Cobra EXP002, Guards Red, For Sale

ha_pe_1968 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-04-2013, 09:47 AM

Hi!

It is the safest and best way you can do - maybe even then you will have to change small things...depends at the person which makes the registry...like headlights, colour of turning signal and so on. By the way this ERA is a great car :-)
The next best solution will be to buy a car which was registered in the European Union but of course it will be a lot more expensive and the market here is a lot smaller.

Peter

Saint Ho · #16 (**permalink**) 10-05-2013, 12:38 AM

I see that everything is answered here, confirms the answers I have made to you by MP on the French site about cobra.

Sincerely.

Saint Ho.

salasvegas · #17 (**permalink**) 10-05-2013, 03:53 AM

Right guys, thea ERA is beautiful, but too clean and too expensive for me.
I'm looking for a car to restore, i would like to have a personal work on it. My pleasurd is not only in the drive, but ialso in the work, and the time to do somethimg by myself.
So it's why I'm looking for this kind of cobra.

mrmustang · #18 (**permalink**) 10-05-2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by salasvegas

Right guys, thea ERA is beautiful, but too clean and too expensive for me.
I'm looking for a car to restore, i would like to have a personal work on it. My pleasurd is not only in the drive, but ialso in the work, and the time to do somethimg by myself.
So it's why I'm looking for this kind of cobra.

Then perhaps you should post your budget so we can assist you further.

Bill S.

salasvegas · #19 (**permalink**) 10-05-2013, 07:39 AM

My budget is arround 20000 $ whitout shipping and all arround.

Hi, saint ho, you're right, and I know on witch way should go my choise, my question here, is if I can find a car like I would like, I'm not interest by an perfect cobra, and all arroud the registration are not the topic.

86Sebring · #20 (**permalink**) 10-05-2013, 03:57 PM

Salavegas: An early Everett- Morrison should work for you. Mine was built in the eighties and it sold to Denmark
Lots of cobras for sale on web, check on ebay too