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01-29-2015, 06:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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FE. The 5.0 is a great motor but belongs in a Mustang.
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01-29-2015, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Elkins, AR, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Roush 427 IR
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FF Type 65 with Coyote
IMG_100_3682_jpg_0091_1 - Club Cobra Photo Gallery
Most of the top manufactures have modified their chassis to accept the 5.0 L Coyote engine. Here is a photo of one in a Factory Five Type 65 with the period correct stack injection system.
Last edited by redchief; 01-29-2015 at 01:22 PM..
Reason: Photo did not show up in post.
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01-29-2015, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Geelong,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Pace 427S, Coyote Aluminator
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Can any of you gentlemen in the US of A tell us Aussies if we need a special oil pan to allow ground clearance when putting the Coyote in a Cobra. I see there are several options in the market just not sure if it is needed.
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01-30-2015, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Elkins, AR, USA,
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Special Oil Pan for Coyote Install
In the FF Type 65 install in the photo above, a special oil pan was developed due to the ride height clearance. The "Canton" pan was too deep for this application and would have caused a problem. This pan can be replicated for the more common roadster install. We have contacted a shop in California to replicated this pan. If you are interested, send me a message. |
01-30-2015, 08:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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The Moroso pan is far superior to the Canton pan as it has a billet rail and better overall construction. We have not used the Canton pan since the Moroso became readily available.
The dimensions of the Moroso pan set it even with the Quick Time bellhousing so you are not going any lower with it.
As for Stack Injected Coyote, we've got something up our sleeve. And we are not locking out the cams to do it (or sacrificing the power with it).
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01-30-2015, 09:11 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Survival Motorsports aluminum FE 482
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You are building an old school car. My opinion is you go old school on the power train. That is the charm of the thing. You can also work on the old school power train if that is your thing, it makes the car become more of a hobby. I imagine with the Coyote engine you would have to pay someone to fix it. Either way great fun.
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01-30-2015, 09:28 AM
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Good Video
If you have not seen this it is worth watching.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEzgy4ki2o"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEzgy4ki2o[/ame]
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01-30-2015, 10:22 AM
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Coyote Stack Injection
The stack injection in the photo has a priority developed ECM that is a stand alone plug and play system. It comes with the harness and all you have to do is hook up the stock sensors from the Coyote. It controls the variable cam timing and takes sensor data from all of the stock sensors including "knock". After three days on a diagnostic engine dyno, a stock 5.0 L engine developed 437 hp at a 6500 rpm limit with an extend rpm range for peak torque to 5400 rpm peak torque of 375 ft lbs. No chassis dyno programming is required with this system.
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01-30-2015, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redchief
The stack injection in the photo has a priority developed ECM that is a stand alone plug and play system. It comes with the harness and all you have to do is hook up the stock sensors from the Coyote. It controls the variable cam timing and takes sensor data from all of the stock sensors including "knock". After three days on a diagnostic engine dyno, a stock 5.0 L engine developed 437 hp at a 6500 rpm limit with an extend rpm range for peak torque to 5400 rpm peak torque of 375 ft lbs. No chassis dyno programming is required with this system.
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Not to get in a side debate here, but the lack of tuning initially is likely what is limiting the output of that setup. 437HP is a shortfall from what a standard Coyote setup can achieve (with tuning of course  ) in a "Cobra" setup. |
02-01-2015, 02:57 PM
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Coyote Stack Injection
I agree on the no debate statement. The Coyote will make great HP. We kept the rpm development to 6500 even though the engine will rev to 7000 all day. At the time, we had only one engine to do development. More HP will come with this additional 500 rpm. The engine we used was a stock 412 HP crate engine so the 437 HP was an improvement over the stock engine and was obtained by the Stack Injection and 3 day dyno development.
Many of us have spent a lot of money and time going through the chassis dyno tuning. Many people do not have a qualified facility available close to their location. This is the where "plug and play" set-up we provide adds some advantages.
I am for any development that provides the Coyote engine for Cobras and other vehicles. I wish you well with your endeavor on development of your package
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