Replica or a modern reproduction?

[Ralphy]

Honda Fit Kit

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8GLIJ_HQJ8]The Honda Handmade Series: First DIY Honda Car - YouTube[/ame]

Ralphy

[ERA2076]

They are Cobras -

chr

[razerwire]

Depends on who's asking. If I'm at a SAAC event the csx # tells everyone what it is. Even then some don't know that only 11 factory approved full comp cars were built and what that includes. I try to tailor my answer to who's asking. Some come up and ask if its a continuation which I answer yes. I can tell they know something about cobras, no need for long answers. Some I just agree that its a Volkswagen with a cobra body on it and they go away happy. I had a sign made to put in front of the car sometimes. When its out I often point to it and say I'm getting old and forget so I have to write it down. Most of the time their mind was made up before they came over to look at it.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by razerwire

Depends on who's asking. If I'm at a SAAC event the csx # tells everyone what it is. Even then some don't know that only 11 factory approved full comp cars were built and what that includes. I try to tailor my answer to who's asking. Some come up and ask if its a continuation which I answer yes. I can tell they know something about cobras, no need for long answers. Some I just agree that its a Volkswagen with a cobra body on it and they go away happy. I had a sign made to put in front of the car sometimes. When its out I often point to it and say I'm getting old and forget so I have to write it down. Most of the time their mind was made up before they came over to look at it.

Good response.

[KevinW]

An entertaining thread.... I like Dan and Razerwise's comments.
I think Cobra replica is a good reply, if indeed you intended it to mimic the original as much as you could.

I've had loads of nice comments on my old car, many when it was in a gelcoat mess. Except for one guy: his kids were pointing and shouting 'wow', so he felt obliged to point and shout 'KIT CAR!!!' at us. Each to his own, I didnt care, but pity the kids.

[Mother]

Why not just say, "It's a hand built custom car." "And its my dream come true to own." That would be a comfortable way to start a conversation.

[Ralphy]

My thought has been the term kit, is loosely and many times used as a battering term. To me a kit, just as in the Honda Fit video? Is a car NOT assembled and finished by the manufacture. Honda was right on with the title Honda Fit Kit. The only difference being Honda would have not assembled the vehicle. Finished by the owner or some other third party. Many owners IMO do a better job than the manufacture and some not. So to term a car, kit? First off you need to know who built it. I you were to purchase a factory, you would expect/hope some quality guidelines were kept. However that may not be true!

So I see these categories.

1. Original
2. Reproduction Factory
3. Reproduction Kit
4. Replica Factory
5. Replica Kit

I didn't build mine I know the original owner had his built by a shop who did at least several cars. So I own a Replica Kit and that's what I've always told others.


Ralphy

[LMH]

"yawn"
Larry

[Dimis]

Evan...
I've tried to stay clear of these exchanges, simply because they are just plain tedious and silly.

I'll preface this by saying regard this topic - YOUR reality sir, is NOT mine (& I dare say others), that aside...


You are seemingly an intelligent enough to realize that your self-righteous rants are hypocritical in themselves... No?

How "selfserving" do you think:
i) your referencing the registry is?
ii) the registry is in to try to protect the enigma that CSX cars are "REAL" and therefore perceivably somehow worth more than the sum of the parts?


Labeling and attacking others in this petty debate/discussion surly is beyond the statesmen, I imagine you think yourself to be.

It concerns me because, it wreaks of someone who seemingly is trying to either justify his purchase of a CSX to himself, or to others... Truth is, no-one really cares champ, as long as your happy it!

You are happy with it, aren't you?
I mean most others I assume would be happy with it.

Just let it be, and agree to disagree, then please hence forth and enjoy your car...

[REAL 1]

1. I'm no statesmen. This site is not the place for statesmen.
2. I'm not referencing my reality. Im referencing "the" authoritative source as to how all these cars are defined and categorized.
3. The purpose of the Registry is stated in the Registry.
4. I didn't attack anyone. The guy in post #29 seemed rather exercised and adamant in pushing his "personal" view across. All of a sudden you're worked up about a "personal attack" which it wasn't? You want to see personal attacks? Go back and view the personal attacks against me. Btw, never recall you stepping in there on my behalf. Your feigned indignation carries 0 weight with me on that score. Typical though of most here on the worlds most biased Cobra site. The banner really should be changed.
5. Not trying to justify my purchase. Very happy with it since made nearly 14 years ago. One could easily argue that the repeated worn mantra used by the guy "stamping his feet" on the floor in post #29 (better?) is used by guys to knock what they don't own to make themselves feel better about what they do own.
6. The Op asked a question. Sorry you and others don't like my response which does nothing more than reference the most widely recognized and respected (except apparently for here on this site for reasons that are transparent) authority. You don't think think for one second that if the Registry supported the homemade self serving demeaning views by many here towards the Continuation series it wouldn't be run up the mast immediately by them and celebrated to as proving their point?
7. No, sorry I won't agree to disagree. That implies the other view is possibly correct which it is not factually for many reasons as explained in the Registry.
8. Yes, I do enjoy my Cobra. A lot. Thanks.

Cheers.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

1. I'm no statesmen. This site is not the place for statesmen.
2. I'm not referencing my reality.... Blah blah blah...

Cheers.

Oh brother... There's no saving you.
Sorry I tried. I should have known better, but my arrogance thinking I could help you where others haven't, got the better of me. Apologies.

Good luck to you mate, you need it.

I'm out of this one.

[REAL 1]

Ralphy: Yes, perhaps you could enlighten me on the disservice to SAAC and Shelby American in what I stated and how what you stated is such a service to them. As far as not having the opportunity of rubbing elbows with you I'll be losing a lot of sleep over that one.

Fjrgary: Yes, actually I agree. The registry is a great source of information but it is a great source of information for everyone. Despite your concession of it being a great source of information you apparently chose to ignore the parts that don't suit your fancy (that's if you even read one). If you haven't perhaps you should buy one and read it. You might learn something.

Also not justifying my purchase of a Continuation Cobra. I was just answering the OPs question. I gave him the correct answer (which he asked for btw) as per the authoritative reference and cited the authoritative source for the answer.

jhv48: Well maybe this "wise man said that but then wise man is wrong too. No doubt he is a CC regular too. Doesn't Jay Leno own a replica? Carroll Shelby owned a Continuation Series Cobra also. Pretty sure either one could afford any original Cobra they wanted.

Dimis: Yes, I appreciate your effort to "save" me but alas I have a low tolerance for CC BS. Don't worry mate, I'll be just fine without your help. Thanks for you "help" anyway.

You guys think I am putting down "replicas" and trying to justify my own purchase of a CSX or touting somehow that my Cobra is "better". That's just not true. Better is a relative term. I am merely citing the world most respected authoritative source on the subject and all these cars and recounted how they define all these cars. You may not like their definitions and categories but that's what it is. You are free to call your cars what you want of course and have your own personal definitions of course. That's fine by me. Couldn't care less but don't start defining my Cobra and other Continuations Series Cobras according to your own personal definition on a widely read web site and expect not to be corrected (at least by me) by what the Registry states.

I am confident in the following: If the Registry supported your positions every one of you would be citing it to a man to "correct" me and establish how wrong I was if I varied from it. Anyone who would deny that is a liar.

Cheers.

[fjrgary]

evan: actually i have read the registry, at least the parts about the real cobras. i find the history of these cars to be very interesting, again i tip my hat to those who contribute. as far as reading about the replicas like you and i own, those really don't interest me. maby if you ever get off your soap box and stop preaching your real one bull$hit, you will see the truth as it really is. REAL SHELBY COBRAS WERE BUILT IN THE 60's!!!!! amen.

[Ralphy]

Dimis,
I'm sure he also has no awareness of the disservice he provides the SAAC and Shelby American. There are replica owners here that may some day want too own a continuation car. But if this is what I'd expect to rub elbows with? No thanks! Also how nice to be posting this nonsense when the SAAC is running a banner for their event on this board.
Ralphy

Originally Posted by Dimis

Evan...
I've tried to stay clear of these exchanges, simply because they are just plain tedious and silly.

I'll preface this by saying regard this topic - YOUR reality sir, is NOT mine (& I dare say others), that aside...


You are seemingly an intelligent enough to realize that your self-righteous rants are hypocritical in themselves... No?

How "selfserving" do you think:
i) your referencing the registry is?
ii) the registry is in to try to protect the enigma that CSX cars are "REAL" and therefore perceivably somehow worth more than the sum of the parts?


Labeling and attacking others in this petty debate/discussion surly is beyond the statesmen, I imagine you think yourself to be.

It concerns me because, it wreaks of someone who seemingly is trying to either justify his purchase of a CSX to himself, or to others... Truth is, no-one really cares champ, as long as your happy it!

You are happy with it, aren't you?
I mean most others I assume would be happy with it.

Just let it be, and agree to disagree, then please hence forth and enjoy your car...

[fjrgary]

evan: why do you feel you have to justify your csx purchase to everone else? just because your car is listed in some regestry doesn't make it real. for owners of real cobras (those built in the 1960's) the regestry is a great source of information. i commend those who contribute to it, i just feel that replicas don't belong. i do hope you find a way to get over your REAL ONE complex, you will be a much happier person.

[buddyg]

Mines a Cobra to me so that's all that matters. I could care less what some registry says. Now if I'm asked if it's an original I will say no, but it's still a Cobra in MY definition and that's all that matters.

[Bartruff1]

I watched that whole damn video about some Honda, expecting to see that girl's tits....... and nothing....I want my two minutes back.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Bartruff1

I watched that whole damn video about some Honda, expecting to see that girl's tits....... and nothing....I want my two minutes back.

Now that's funny.

[Bartruff1]

What the hell is a "fit" ? I thought it said "tit"...I have to get these cataracts fixed.

[KevinW]

Originally Posted by Bartruff1

I watched that whole damn video about some Honda, expecting to see that girl's tits....... and nothing....I want my two minutes back.

I still dont understand the video. Was it an ironic comedy sketch or do Honda send their cars to the US for home assembly?