Ebay Alumin CSX 4000 series on Ebay

[StormBringer_1]

There is member on Ford GT site that was looking for help on this purchase.

Shelby Other 427 | eBay

I believe he is awaiting activation on this site for his membership. Some information has been posted already but you guys know a lot about these builds.

This is the current thread intel

CSX. Shelby Cobra


$120,000. is the price.


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[gsharapa]

Good price for an aluminum CSX as I have seen CSX fiberglass cars sell for that. Clearly he needs to get all the facts on the motor ie; internals, who built it etc. The early cars came through Vegas and Mexico but I thought the aluminum cars were from Kirkham, but lots of people could of built it from a authorized Shelby dealer to the guy down the street. Also, $120K seems too cheap seeing that a fiberglass roller is in the $90s now, so might see if he could trace down the previous owner.

[RodKnock]

The SAAC Registry states "CSX4145. Aluminum body. Completed 2/21/00. Dealer: All Pro Cars (Muncie, PA). Trigo wheels; chrome roll bar. Purchased by James Furman (Manassas, VA)."

Not much to go by, but at $120,000 or $130,000, if that is what it's sold for, would be "WELL BOUGHT.' Some details are lacking, but this would/could be a blow to Evan's theory that "aluminum CSX's are worth $200,000." Supposedly, aluminum CSX rollers are $160,000.

However, the auction is not done and the bidding continues from it's current $110,000 level.

[gsharapa]

Interesting that a simple Google search shows it has been for sale in Ca and the current dealer also had it for sale for $110K. Looks like it went though Kruse auction back in 2001.

http://cars.trovit.com/index.php/cod...n_type.1/pop.1

Shelby American 1966 Ac Cobra Csx4000 Series Aluminum - Used Shelby Other for sale in West Palm Beach, Florida | OldtimerPorsche.com

1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C | #24698 Premium Auction Database

[fordracing65]

Evan, buy it, according to you these cars are worth well over 200k...

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by fordracing65

Evan, buy it, according to you these cars are worth well over 200k...

Car sold for well under market. Fantastic buy. However, just like original Cobras, the price of Continuation cars vary based on many factors. You still can't duplicate even that car new for $160K today.

Can't escape the fact that if you want a new aluminum Shelby you are over a year out on wait and lighter in the wallet $160K for the rolling chassis.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Car sold for well under market. Fantastic buy. However, just like original Cobras, the price of Continuation cars vary based on many factors. You still can't duplicate even that car new for $160K today.

Can't escape the fact that if you want a new aluminum Shelby you are over a year out on wait and lighter in the wallet $160K for the rolling chassis.

It makes absolutely ZERO sense to me to buy a new alloy CSX roller for $160K, assuming that is the correct figure, when the current market value for a 2,000-mile early (preferable to the later models IMO) alloy CSX is $130K. Assuming that was the final price.

That's a HUGE depreciation expense on one's financial statement.

[twobjshelbys]

Does anyone know anything about the builder? They have a web site that is truly ancient.

[bret a ewing]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Does anyone know anything about the builder? They have a web site that is truly ancient.

Hehe, the owner is Lee Benson. Was up to see him before I purchased a CSX4k car. He had a LOT of projects going on at the time. Some of which were back in a quonset hut shop behind the main shop. Nice fella, just a little disorganized for my taste. I dont mind a working shop looking busy just not cluttered with piles of stuff (and junk) everywhere.

He had a couple of freshly completed examples on hand. A slabside and an S/C car. Both were turned out to a high degree of quality.

He was heavily involved in Daytona Coupes at the time. Two in the shop in various stages of completion.

[Cobraatak]

I have some personal knowledge of this car, so if anyone is seriously considering purchasing this Cobra feel free to PM me.

John

[SFSDFGT]

Originally Posted by Cobraatak

I have some personal knowledge of this car, so if anyone is seriously considering purchasing this Cobra feel free to PM me.

John

John, thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find me through the Ford GT Forum. That was very kind of you, and I truly appreciate it. I sent you an email explaining what I found out since we talked. This car is definitely not built to everybody's liking, and there are some things that I will be changing when I get it, but for the price, I am willing to take some risks. My dream of someday owning a genuine aluminum-bodied Shelby Cobra is coming true.

[Cobraatak]

Originally Posted by SFSDFGT

John, thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to find me through the Ford GT Forum. That was very kind of you, and I truly appreciate it. I sent you an email explaining what I found out since we talked. This car is definitely not built to everybody's liking, and there are some things that I will be changing when I get it, but for the price, I am willing to take some risks. My dream of someday owning a genuine aluminum-bodied Shelby Cobra is coming true.

Clint,

Glad I could provide you with some details on the car and even happier that you are purchasing the car! It really is a beautiful Cobra and I'm sure you will love it and have many years of motoring fun!

Welcome to the land of Cobra owners...you'll never look back and regret this purchase.

John

[NewYorkGuy]

there is a Kirkham 427 Cobra roller on ebay, auction ends in 3 hrs, current bid $67K.

Shelby 427 Cobra Brushed Aluminum Leather Interior Roller | eBay

[ChicagoChris]

Don't believe any metal cars came out of Mexico.

[RodKnock]

For 2,000-ish miles, the car seems a bit more worn than I'd expect. And I don't think the builder was interested in originality when assembling CSX4145. The fuel fittings are annoying as are the bumpers on an S/C car. And removing the POS BFG TA's would be the first order of business. A few other items that I'd change as well.

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

For 2,000-ish miles, the car seems a bit more worn than I'd expect. And I don't think the builder was interested in originality when assembling CSX4145. The fuel fittings are annoying as are the bumpers on an S/C car. And removing the POS BFG TA's would be the first order of business. A few other items that I'd change as well.

Totally agree with all that you stated. My thoughts are that it had a speedometer failure/replacement 2,000-ish miles ago.

BTW, the buyer is already bragging on that GT Forum thread that he has bought the car. But, hey, if he paid $130K for an all alloy "CSX", I believe that will be viewed as well bought in 3-5 years. That would also give him enough time to fix many of the details and rejuvenate that exterior and interior.

[SFSDFGT]

Originally Posted by ACademic

Totally agree with all that you stated. My thoughts are that it had a speedometer failure/replacement 2,000-ish miles ago.

BTW, the buyer is already bragging on that GT Forum thread that he has bought the car. But, hey, if he paid $130K for an all alloy "CSX", I believe that will be viewed as well bought in 3-5 years. That would also give him enough time to fix many of the details and rejuvenate that exterior and interior.

Wow, kind of a snarky bunch on this forum, huh?

I am soon to be the new owner of CSX 4145. I signed up for an account here a few days ago in hopes of garnering some info from you folks, to better learn about this car. Unfortunately, there was quite a delay in activating my account, and I wasn't able to post until today.

I'm not sure how what I typed on the Ford GT Forum would be construed as "bragging". This is what I said there:
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Well, looks like I will soon be the new owner of CSX #4145. The car is not perfect and needs some minor sorting, but perfect for me since I plan to drive the car some, and there's no sense paying top-dollar for a pristine car that I would be afraid to use. I think an aluminum-body CSX with all-aluminum Shelby 427 will probably do fine value-wise over time, especially for what I paid for it.

Many, MANY thanks go out to Sinovac here, who was gracious enough to check out the car in detail today and take it for a spin. I appreciate the detailed report! Now at least I know what I am dealing with, and this allowed me to be much more comfortable in making the decision to purchase, and what I was willing to pay. Sinovac is obviously quite knowledgeable on Cobras also. Thank you also to everybody else, above, who helped me out with advice. I have a lot of learning to do about every facet of my new toy. I'll try to soak it all in, like I did with the FGT over a year ago. Time to order some books and spend countless hours on the Cobra forums now...
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Maybe I won't be spending much time on this forum, after all.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by SFSDFGT

Wow, kind of a snarky bunch on this forum, huh?

I am soon to be the new owner of CSX 4145. I signed up for an account here a few days ago in hopes of garnering some info from you folks, to better learn about this car. Unfortunately, there was quite a delay in activating my account, and I wasn't able to post until today.

I'm not sure how what I typed on the Ford GT Forum would be construed as "bragging". This is what I said there:
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Well, looks like I will soon be the new owner of CSX #4145. The car is not perfect and needs some minor sorting, but perfect for me since I plan to drive the car some, and there's no sense paying top-dollar for a pristine car that I would be afraid to use. I think an aluminum-body CSX with all-aluminum Shelby 427 will probably do fine value-wise over time, especially for what I paid for it.

Many, MANY thanks go out to Sinovac here, who was gracious enough to check out the car in detail today and take it for a spin. I appreciate the detailed report! Now at least I know what I am dealing with, and this allowed me to be much more comfortable in making the decision to purchase, and what I was willing to pay. Sinovac is obviously quite knowledgeable on Cobras also. Thank you also to everybody else, above, who helped me out with advice. I have a lot of learning to do about every facet of my new toy. I'll try to soak it all in, like I did with the FGT over a year ago. Time to order some books and spend countless hours on the Cobra forums now...
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Maybe I won't be spending much time on this forum, after all.

Welcome aboard CC for however long you are here. I'll show you to your room in steerage with all the other CSX owners here. Been a Shelby Cobra owner for 13 years and around here for about the same time.

Dealing with "snarkyness" is a good day for a CSX owner here.

Congrats on your purchase. Fantastic buy even if the car needs some "loving" and work.

If you decide to stick around pick up a SAAC Registry. Kind of like garlic is to vampires with the sour grapes bunch here. Just cite the Registry when appropriate. You will learn what I mean if you are here long enough. They hate that.

If I can help with anything let me know.

BTW I am also an FGT owner and a member on the FGT forum.

Congrats and don't let anyone one here knock what you own. This place is not as warm and fuzzy as the FGTforum.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by SFSDFGT

Wow, kind of a snarky bunch on this forum, huh?

I am soon to be the new owner of CSX 4145. I signed up for an account here a few days ago in hopes of garnering some info from you folks, to better learn about this car. Unfortunately, there was quite a delay in activating my account, and I wasn't able to post until today.

I'm not sure how what I typed on the Ford GT Forum would be construed as "bragging". This is what I said there:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Well, looks like I will soon be the new owner of CSX #4145. The car is not perfect and needs some minor sorting, but perfect for me since I plan to drive the car some, and there's no sense paying top-dollar for a pristine car that I would be afraid to use. I think an aluminum-body CSX with all-aluminum Shelby 427 will probably do fine value-wise over time, especially for what I paid for it.

Many, MANY thanks go out to Sinovac here, who was gracious enough to check out the car in detail today and take it for a spin. I appreciate the detailed report! Now at least I know what I am dealing with, and this allowed me to be much more comfortable in making the decision to purchase, and what I was willing to pay. Sinovac is obviously quite knowledgeable on Cobras also. Thank you also to everybody else, above, who helped me out with advice. I have a lot of learning to do about every facet of my new toy. I'll try to soak it all in, like I did with the FGT over a year ago. Time to order some books and spend countless hours on the Cobra forums now...
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Maybe I won't be spending much time on this forum, after all.

Perhaps I can help since I am a member of both forums. The Ford GT forum is not diverse at all because most people on the forum own identical cars and all love them. They show pictures of their cars or by a new one or go fast in a top speed event and get nothing but praise from other members.
There is almost never any descent because they all think alike.

This forum is made up of a very diverse group of people with different cars, different engines, different interests and many have strong opinions regarding their particular views. The thing I find refreshing here is people tell it like it is with no sugar coating. If you are full of beans it will be pointed out quickly, if you are dispensing incorrect information that will be pointed out too. Some times things get a little out of hand but the moderators take care of that quickly. There is a wealth of information here on just about any car subject you can think of and members will gladly share their knowledge. The Ford GT site can be a bit boring at times but it is also very civil and BS goes unchallenged in most instances. It is really your choice do you want good information, highly entertaining debates or civil discussions with no disagreement.

[StormBringer_1]

Originally Posted by SFSDFGT

Wow, kind of a snarky bunch on this forum, huh?

Maybe I won't be spending much time on this forum, after all.

Welcome to the JUNGLE bro!

I didn't know what handle you were going to use but I did send Jamo your location to expedite the normal protocols for membership. I see that a member did look at your new Cobra. I was trying to see if you were getting some type of pre-inspection before purchase. I tried to log into my old FordGT account but no success. Once in awhile I have to take the broom out and clear the place but these guys do know their various Cobra builds and have a great expertise in this area. Just watch out for bible thumping err I mean registry thumping members. Only kidding.

Was that crazy plum challenger color offered at the time or was it a custom order?(convertible) These guys are sick of hearing it but my sister had a '70 crazy plum Challenger and it was stolen and taken to the west coast and used in a bank heist in the '70's. They knew a fast heavy car. One of my guys is in contact with GM Heritage and trying to cut through the red tape for a plum crazy hellcat commissioned unit. Previously before the hellcat version I wasn't interested. I didn't see that color in the build intel. Someone has a 1000hp monster posted on the GT site.


Just post some high end very complicated watch news for Jamo because he enjoys that kind of thing.


And enjoy the ride hope your children don't fight over who rides in it. Ever since I had twin almost 11 years ago anything that I wanted to collect I had to purchase two. Luckily until recently there hasn't been much to collect.

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Perhaps I can help since I am a member of both forums. The Ford GT forum is not diverse at all because most people on the forum own identical cars and all love them. They show pictures of their cars or by a new one or go fast in a top speed event and get nothing but praise from other members.
There is almost never any descent because they all think alike.

This forum is made up of a very diverse group of people with different cars, different engines, different interests and many have strong opinions regarding their particular views. The thing I find refreshing here is people tell it like it is with no sugar coating. If you are full of beans it will be pointed out quickly, if you are dispensing incorrect information that will be pointed out too. Some times things get a little out of hand but the moderators take care of that quickly. There is a wealth of information here on just about any car subject you can think of and members will gladly share their knowledge. The Ford GT site can be a bit boring at times but it is also very civil and BS goes unchallenged in most instances. It is really your choice do you want good information, highly entertaining debates or civil discussions with no disagreement.

I don't know seems like a lot of good guys that enjoy their cars over there. I like the thread "Other Cars" and think this place could use that. I would fill it up with all the supercar intel you never hear about. The LaFerrari XX has had 3 fires during testing of its prototype. Strange that there have already been two small fires on production models. This comes straight from the factory.