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Old 05-22-2015, 07:07 AM
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I have to correct my self from my earlier post. Brooklands was involved with CSX1001 with AC and as well as some of the other 1000 cars with AC. For the last few years I have been trying to learn as much as I can about the 1000 series and the time line of AC cars. I am still learning and adding bits and pieces of information as I am able to get it. If/when I can get the story straight Ill share it.

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I would not pay a premium for CSX 1020 if it has no connection to AC. No way. Beside the true 1000 series the cars the only cars I would pay a premium which are the 14 that made it before Lubinsky fled to Malta are the Special Edition CSX Shelby's such as the Elliot, 40th, the few Comp cars they did, Challenge cars and the early aluminum Shelby's which were finished at Las Vegas when they were still putting on the right stuff like NOS light trim rings, NOS style seats, Smith Gauges, Girling brakes, Lucas switches, correct suspension and when Carroll was still there and involved. The only option in those days was the diff cooler which I opted for. Now its like a Chinese menu. You get 4 wheels, a chassis and body. Everything else is optional.

I was ...ugh, wrong (doesn't happen often )...on CSX 30601. It is a car with a checkered past. Seem like it is NOT an original Shelby Completion Series but built by Brian Angliss as a thumb in the eye to Shelby when they were still carrying on with each other and throwing toys out of their cribs so to speak. It was meant as sign that AC can also assign Chassis numbers with CSX. Not true but that was the point he was trying to make. The "1" was likely added later by someone after the genuine "Completion" CSX 3060 surfaced and the owner threw a fit.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:43 AM
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Like I said, here come all the stories of where and how these cars came about and no body really knows crap...
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Also, I'm confused. If CSX 1020 it has no connection to AC Ltd why does it have a CSX 1000 vin?
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While CSX1020 is a english made body it is not on the original bucks,tooling, or by AC cars. The AC Body and Chassis on the earlier CSX1000 cars bring a premium vs the non AC built cars.
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Now its like a Chinese menu. You get 4 wheels, a chassis and body. Everything else is optional.
This is/will be the problem with the Shelby Continuation/Completion/Resurrection/Replica legacy. There are too many stories, too many variables, too many builders, too many nuances, too much confusion. I feel sorry for the SAAC Registrar. They'll have to catalog all of it.

Back to the Resurrection Cobra. And maybe Tony answered it already. But why did Shelby hire both Drew Serb and Kirkham to produce the first two cars in this next series. I don't know Drew Serb's production capabilities or know anything about the quality of his work, but Kirkham is the recognized leader in this industry, when top notch manufacturing, aluminum Cobra bodies and Shelby Cobra knowledge is required for the job.

I wonder is it because Kirkham is producing the 50th Anniversary vehicles AND the Resurrection Cobras, that additional resources are required? In the end, having just one source for your product would seem to be the most efficient and best for QC. Shelby has had so many companies producing their product that there will always be a ton of confusion.
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For some reason I get the feeling that there is an accountant (or CFO) at SAI telling the boys that they better figure out cash flow pretty damn quick!
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I agree with this ^^^.

That's why the "Gumball Rally" Edition makes so much sense. Better than that Terlingua Edition.

Was there a "Ferrari's Ass is Mine" Edition? I remember seeing a "FAM" badge posted here recently.
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That's exactly why the early Continuation cars and some special editions like the CSX 1000 will be highly prized in the future. They are what they are and easily distinguishable from the later ones by the original style suspension, Lucas switches, Girling brakes, headlight trim rings etc... and most are documented with paperwork and the Registry.
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That's why the "Gumball Rally" Edition makes so much sense. Better than that Terlingua Edition.

Was there a "Ferrari's Ass is Mine" Edition? I remember seeing a "FAM" badge posted here recently.
I have literally seen a FAM badged car all wrapped in plastic in a shop. The owner couldn't find a buyer for it. It was still a roller. Looked just like any other Cobra roller but with the "special" badging added to it. Owner was convinced that it was worth a fortune. No buyers.
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I have literally seen a FAM badged car all wrapped in plastic in a shop. The owner couldn't find a buyer for it. It was still a roller. Looked just like any other Cobra roller but with the "special" badging added to it. Owner was convinced that it was worth a fortune. No buyers.
Badges are always very important.

No matter what "Gold Hat" (the Mexican bandit character in the Treasure of the Sierra Madre) had to say.
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