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Old 10-25-2015, 06:35 PM
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I'm taking nothing out of context nor giving partial statements. Go read the CSX 4000 Component car paragraph on page 708 again, which explains the CSX 4xxx series cars and why the registry chooses to refer to them as component cars. It's clear as it can be. Quote: "He did not want his cars devalued by using the term replica." Calling them component cars "suited his need to explain (mostly to various dmv authorities) that these cars were only components of a completed car - not the completed car itself, which would be required to adhere to all sorts of current stringent governmental safety regulations." So the choice was made to circumvent the dmv regulations.

And no matter how hard you may try to connect the original Cobras with your later replica, it can't be done. The originals were sold as complete cars through Ford dealers, not as component or kit cars. Imagining what might have happened if Shelby had continued production past 1968 is a meaningless exercise, but one that lawyers have become quite adept at.

It is apparent that if someone were to point out that your car is black, you would argue that it is charcoal; you twist things to suit your purpose. Call a CSX 4xxx a "current production Cobra" all you like. Just don't lump it in with the originals.
So the truth again slips out. You don't want the Continuation Cobra connected to the originals. That was patently clear from you in the past and now. However, not you or anyone can take away the connection that does exist. Unfortunately for you they are connected, i.e. same manufacturer/company issuing a Shelby Cobra for sale separated by a period of years. Fact. In fact, not you or even your club can change that fact. Your club's Registry connects them to the extent they are connected and appropriately so. Deal with it. The facts are changing on that score.

You again run your colors up the mast by referring to my "replica" when your club's registry doesn't consider my car a "replica". In fact some aluminum Continuation values are not far off from your "COB's". Further, Continuation Cobras have more Shelby DNA and are more "genuine" Cobras than some rebodied originals and especially some "reconstructed" Originals. That must really irk you.

I've read page 708. Yes, CS had to describe them as "component" cars to circumvent federal regulations in order to sell a genuine spec Cobra. No way to manufacture or sell such a car today. Tell me you don't understand that. Now you go read page 29-31 to start.

I have twisted nothing. The Registry is very very clear. You are the one "twisting" to suit your purpose. You know damn well what the Registry says in multiple places regarding the fact the Continuation series are not considered replicas or kit cars and are in fact considered authentic Shelby Cobras. You just don't like it. Oh, well. Sit with your buddies on the committee and re-do it to say what you want it to say. No problem. Re-write it. Won't change the facts. Retracting logical, rational and factually correct statements and positions should do wonders for SAAC's credibility. However, it should make you feel better personally.

Oh, BTW your club took the position that the continuation Cobras were genuine Cobras just as the originals except separated by date of manufacture at least as early as 2004 a good 4 years before the litigation you claim occurred between CS and SAAC resulting in SAAC "taking liberties". What a bunch of hooey.

Don't worry about me "lumping" Continuation Cobras in with Originals. I stick to the facts. Why don't you stop lumping Continuation Cobras as "replicas" and stick to the Registry. I would think a registrar for SAAC would back his club's Registry viewed as a world wide authoritative text and the Club's statements instead of grinding his own personal axe to protect his own turf.
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