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Old 01-05-2016, 07:06 AM
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thank you mark for the immediate reaction

the number is ccx 553XX, so this might be a contemporary classics 289 replica...?? the german registration is 1968 and it has an aluminium body.....

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Old 01-05-2016, 08:09 AM
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I'm not aware of Contemporary building any alloy bodied 289 replicas, but I suppose anything is possible - others here will know. Are you sure the prefix is CCX and not COX? If it is COX, then it might be a very valuable AC built Cobra and 1968 would be a legitimate production year. If it is indeed a CCX, then the registration year is falsified as Contemporary didn't exist until the 80's / 90's.
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:36 AM
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CCX is indeed Contemporary
All their numbers started as CCX3-3XXX they may have used a CCX3-2XXX for the 289? Dunno......

CCX frames were capable of conversion to alloy but lots of work and of course would not pre-date 1980.

COX = Valuable.....

Depends on the $ing as to what you should do.
If its a car that is COX and can get FIA papers it has 6 figure value.
If it is a CCX you may want someone to look at it to validate what you have.
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CCX is indeed Contemporary
All their numbers started as CCX3-3XXX they may have used a CCX3-2XXX for the 289? Dunno......
Jeff,

The Contemporary 289FIA VIN numbers were:

CCX2-250x...they built 7 of them....'1' thru '7' I believe is the last digit...5 live in the US, 2 in the UK.
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Thanks, good to see you are still around....
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Thanks, good to see you are still around....
Thanks Jeff, I try to poke my head in every now and again and see what's going on. I am without a toy at the moment, no time or money......

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i saw a photo of the the type badge ("shelby"badge, not "ac"badge) and of the german registration title, both with ccx and not cox, if cox i would not have asked

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thank you mark for the immediate reaction

the number is ccx 553XX, so this might be a contemporary classics 289 replica...?? the german registration is 1968 and it has an aluminium body.....
Post a link to the car and it's pictures.

Also, post the full CCX VIN and I'll check to see if I have it in my database.


The rest of what you have posted is false information, as Ford had nothing to do with Contemporary and vice versa.

Finally, are you sure the body is aluminum, and you are not just looking at the aluminum panels in the trunk and engine compartment?


Have you actually laid hands on the car (IE: have you seen the car in person)?
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AC COBRA cobra ford cobra 289 original Used - the parking

Cobra Andere 427 289 à DE-50670 Köln Allemagne

Cobra 427 AC 5,7 V8 Ltr. H-Kennz. à DE-59609 Anröchte Allemagne


These are all listed in Germany as 1968's, although the middle one is or was in Florida, and discussed here, not in a flattering way I might add


None of them are originals, or even close.
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Post a link to the car and it's pictures.

Also, post the full CCX VIN and I'll check to see if I have it in my database.


The rest of what you have posted is false information, as Ford had nothing to do with Contemporary and vice versa.

Finally, are you sure the body is aluminum, and you are not just looking at the aluminum panels in the trunk and engine compartment?


Have you actually laid hands on the car (IE: have you seen the car in person)?
the vin is ccx55363, i will have a look at the car next week and will take some photos of my own, and yes, sure that the whole body is aluminium (no paint)
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the vin is ccx55363, i will have a look at the car next week and will take some photos of my own, and yes, sure that the whole body is aluminium (no paint)
There was a Kirkham two or three years ago that was being sold using a CCX "Contemporary Motorcar Co" dataplate, but the number you provided is not what was shown.
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The first link Bill attached is the car.
VIN tag is in the picture rotation.

At $250,000US it is expensive and also suggesting its a KMS with all the billet

http://www.automobile.fr/Voiture/x/v...17500947.html#

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yes, that is the car !
too cheap for an original, too expensive for a recreation?
contemporary classic with kirkham body?
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but seems well crafted and has a german historic title, quite important because no kms, superformance or shelby csx will get that title in germany nowadays
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yes, that is the car !
too cheap for an original, too expensive for a recreation?
contemporary classic with kirkham body?
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but seems well crafted and has a german historic title, quite important because no kms, superformance or shelby csx will get that title in germany nowadays

Not a CCX, not a CSX, but it is a nice Kirkham with a made up VIN number
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:57 PM
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There was a Kirkham two or three years ago that was being sold using a CCX "Contemporary Motorcar Co" dataplate, but the number you provided is not what was shown.
What would possess someone with a fake Cobra to borrow the VIN number from another fake Cobra? And, frankly, one that isn't as nice to begin with?
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:25 PM
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KMS does make the Lemans type flares.
However so can an alloy guy as a retrofit.

Patrick, come on CCX is a nice car.... Might be because CCX makes exporting easier as they were mostly titled from 25+years ago.....
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Patrick, come on CCX is a nice car.... Might be because CCX makes exporting easier as they were mostly titled from 25+years ago.....
That is extremely risky behavior... and can easily cost someone their car.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:31 PM
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What would possess someone with a fake Cobra to borrow the VIN number from another fake Cobra? And, frankly, one that isn't as nice to begin with?
Depends where it was originally titled, if a CCX xxxxxx was already in the system, then when the clerk asks "oh, is it one of these", the response generally is "yes, yes it is".
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