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06-01-2016, 07:26 PM
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I am not sure I would use that exact engine because you are paying a lot of money for the sealed racing specs you do not need, but something with 400 hp is perfect depending on your tires. I would guess the RPM range kicks in a little higher up the RPM range, which makes them pretty nice to putt around in until you floor the car. Tuned correctly with EFI will help a lot also.
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06-01-2016, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joyridin'
I am not sure I would use that exact engine because you are paying a lot of money for the sealed racing specs you do not need, but something with 400 hp is perfect depending on your tires. I would guess the RPM range kicks in a little higher up the RPM range, which makes them pretty nice to putt around in until you floor the car. Tuned correctly with EFI will help a lot also.
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And just what tires is he running?
My point exactly!
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06-02-2016, 07:14 AM
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"Anymore than blah blah horsepower is too much and you won't enjoy it" lol. WTF??? I had to check the web address to be sure I'm at the right site, or is this ClubPrius.com? Don't forget the tampon dispenser on the dashboard...
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06-02-2016, 08:10 AM
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"Anymore than blah blah horsepower is too much and you won't enjoy it" lol. WTF???.
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So, how many Cobras have you owned, driven, or raced on a road course ?
Then again, ever have your car on a chassis dyno, you might just be surprised at what HP/tq you have at your rear wheels, even with your 460
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06-02-2016, 11:50 AM
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I can only drive one at a time... about 425 at wheels. Surprised how?
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06-02-2016, 11:56 AM
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It will be your car and by all means put whatever level of power you want in it. The point is without the right tires, 400HP will not go faster than 300.
I would suggest the Avon 205 C6ZZs as the best option for safely putting the power down.
And yes, you are paying a premium for a "sealed race engine". You can get equal or better for less money by looking around.
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06-02-2016, 12:12 PM
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I can only drive one at a time... about 425 at wheels. Surprised how?
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Chassis dyno sheet to prove your rear wheel numbers?
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06-02-2016, 12:24 PM
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Not a big #... Road car, like the poster. Pump gas. 50k miles. No tickets or accidents. Very easy driver. Torque important for street manners. Would I suggest he won't like anything else? No...
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06-02-2016, 12:54 PM
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Ford doesn't post specs on the X302B, in terms of at what RPM's that power is generated. Weird?
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06-02-2016, 04:57 PM
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Yep, the M-6007-X302B is the unit as you mentioned. 345 hp, call them for a dyno sheet to rpm/power spread. Great engine.
The T5 is a good call. V is right on that, looking back I would have picked it over the TKO 600.
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06-02-2016, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Armrer
Yep, the M-6007-X302B is the unit as you mentioned. 345 hp, call them for a dyno sheet to rpm/power spread. Great engine.
The T5 is a good call. V is right on that, looking back I would have picked it over the TKO 600.
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The T5 world class is fine but the .64 overdrive puts many engines in a "no go" rev range at normal (65-80) MPH speeds where the TKO .82 allows use of fifth without lugging/bucking/being under the comfortable range of the engine.
Again, careful analysis of how and where you will be driving will help in proper powertrain selection.
The tires on your roller will be selected by the dealer. The factory provides no tires so request what you want and pay the difference to the dealer to bridge the gap from what they "give" you to what you really need.
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06-02-2016, 07:18 PM
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The T5 world class is fine but the .64 overdrive puts many engines in a "no go" rev range at normal (65-80) MPH speeds where the TKO .82 allows use of fifth without lugging/bucking/being under the comfortable range of the engine.
Again, careful analysis of how and where you will be driving will help in proper powertrain selection.
The tires on your roller will be selected by the dealer. The factory provides no tires so request what you want and pay the difference to the dealer to bridge the gap from what they "give" you to what you really need.
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thanks - what size is typical for a 289 slab?
I am a big believer in spending more money for good tires vs. garbage ones.
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06-03-2016, 03:48 AM
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thanks - what size is typical for a 289 slab?
I am a big believer in spending more money for good tires vs. garbage ones.
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The most common is a 205/70x15 (or 75 series t be closer to original) but as Amrer has indicated a 215/70 will fit. He has had a lower performance Firestone on his car, he then upgraded to Blockley 205s ( Blockley Tyre - Vintage and Classic Car Tyres) but has now fitted Michelin 215s ( XWX | Michelin Classic)
And I would put the Avons as equal or better to any choice SascoSports Inc is a full-function racecar preparation restoration shop Rally-CR6ZZ-DOT&tire_size=205/70R15 96V&std_rim=&rim_diameter=15
Note these are not cheap, but why spend thousands on "horsepower" and balk at hundreds to allow it to be used?
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06-03-2016, 10:28 AM
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So about $400 each for the Michelins...still cheaper than what I pay for tires on my other cars :-)
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06-02-2016, 06:46 PM
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So I realize this is far from an important question - but has anyone tried to put a halfway decent stereo in?
Or does wind noise wipe out that idea?
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06-02-2016, 06:58 PM
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So I realize this is far from an important question - but has anyone tried to put a halfway decent stereo in?
Or does wind noise wipe out that idea?
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Hell, I can't hear for an hour or so after driving! Maybe someone else may have different result. 
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06-02-2016, 06:48 PM
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And I think I am leaning back to the easy X302B and T-5 combo. Simple plain driver, and with EFI super reliable.
The Superformance 289 comes with a set of tires already I believe?
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06-03-2016, 12:20 AM
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And I think I am leaning back to the easy X302B and T-5 combo. Simple plain driver, and with EFI super reliable.
The Superformance 289 comes with a set of tires already I believe?
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The T5 is an awesome transmission! I haven't crossed this bridge yet but I've done some research on T5's and shifter location. In an original car with a BW trans, the shifter is 16" back from the bellhousing. There is a couple ways to get a T5 with it's shifter location in that position but it takes some fitting of different tailshaft housings and cases. Possibly a custom output shaft as well, depending on what components are used.
This is of course, all dependent on engine location, body and interior panel placement, etc, as compared to an original car. It's also dependent on your requirements of how accurate you want it to replicate. My 289 isn't an SPF, it's a HiTech/Sagebrush, so I can't really advise on all of those aspects of SPF. Just saying it's something you might want to look at before you get going on the car.
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06-02-2016, 06:49 PM
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Armrer - I think you guessed which shop I was talking to on this?
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06-02-2016, 09:53 PM
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Armrer - I think you guessed which shop I was talking to on this?
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I did.
MKIV does have a valid point on the tall 5th gear on the TKO. The T5 is at its limit, torque wise with the above engine. Although it is stronger, I wish the TKO shifted as smooth as the T5, but I understand they get better after about 2k miles.
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