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06-28-2016, 07:47 AM
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I do have a 352 block that's been fully machined, pretty fancy-like.....block filled up to water pump holes, bored/honed to 4.060" with torque plates, align honed with ARP main studs, square decked with a BHJ, bronze lifter bore bushings installed. With a 4.375" stroke, you'd be at 453 cubes.
I'd take $1300 for the block, ready to assemble. Or I'd make you a little better deal if you wanted a short block built with it.
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06-28-2016, 07:54 AM
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Sure, when you have time shoot me a price short blk.
Is that the smallest FE that was manufactured ?
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06-28-2016, 08:03 AM
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06-28-2016, 08:07 AM
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Nope. 331 was the smallest. However, this is a bored 352 block, .060" over standard.
$5280 for an assembled short block. Would include the machined block, a billet steel camshaft of your choice (hydraulic roller, solid roller), degreed by me with a Cloyes billet timing set, RPM 4.375" forged crank, internally balanced, with a custom set of Racetec forged pistons and a set of Scat H-beam connecting rods. Mahle piston rings, Federal Mogul main/rod bearings, Durabond cam bearings. Block painted your color choice.
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06-28-2016, 08:28 AM
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Is that with a 390 or 428 crank ?
To increase HP & TQ, what if it ran on E85, so we could have higher compression ?
Of course that's with every engine.
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06-28-2016, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
Nope. 331 was the smallest. However, this is a bored 352 block, .060" over standard.
$5280 for an assembled short block. Would include the machined block, a billet steel camshaft of your choice (hydraulic roller, solid roller), degreed by me with a Cloyes billet timing set, RPM 4.375" forged crank, internally balanced, with a custom set of Racetec forged pistons and a set of Scat H-beam connecting rods. Mahle piston rings, Federal Mogul main/rod bearings, Durabond cam bearings. Block painted your color choice.
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It's amazing that it is a 60 over and 4.375 bore. That's huge. lol
So, with a proper sized hydro or mechanical cam, intake and good heads on E85, what's your guess on HP/TQ, torque curve & RPM range ?
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06-28-2016, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
It's amazing that it is a 60 over and 4.375 bore. That's huge. lol
So, with a proper sized hydro or mechanical cam, intake and good heads on E85, what's your guess on HP/TQ, torque curve & RPM range ?
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Here's one example from Brent's site ( Lykins Motorsports, LLC ): 445 ci FE, 525 hp @ 5500, 588 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.080 x 4.250, Scat 9000 series crankshaft, Scat I-beam rods, Racetec pistons, 10:1. Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller cam, 235/241 @ .050", 110 LSA, .610" lift. Survival Motorsports as cast cylinder heads, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel HR-750 carb. Stuska dyno.
Above is 4.080" bore vs 4.060", and stroke is 4.250" vs 4.375". So, slightly smaller bore and 1/8" longer stroke, making it slightly bigger at 453 CID vs 445 CID. All things being equal, it should produce similar HP and torque.
Camshaft selection will be important, and I'd recommend taking Brent's advice on that.
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07-07-2016, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cycleguy55
Here's one example from Brent's site ( Lykins Motorsports, LLC ): 445 ci FE, 525 hp @ 5500, 588 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.080 x 4.250, Scat 9000 series crankshaft, Scat I-beam rods, Racetec pistons, 10:1. Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller cam, 235/241 @ .050", 110 LSA, .610" lift. Survival Motorsports as cast cylinder heads, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel HR-750 carb. Stuska dyno.
Above is 4.080" bore vs 4.060", and stroke is 4.250" vs 4.375". So, slightly smaller bore and 1/8" longer stroke, making it slightly bigger at 453 CID vs 445 CID. All things being equal, it should produce similar HP and torque.
Camshaft selection will be important, and I'd recommend taking Brent's advice on that. |
Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?
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07-07-2016, 12:13 PM
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Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?
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That 445 & 453 both probably feel pretty much like mine. My 447 has a little shorter stroke, slightly fatter bore, a few tenths more compression and a few degrees more duration, but a little less lift, and little more lobe separation. Unless he sent something to you that was broken, which ain't gonna happen, you would be quite pleased with either. I think it's now officially time for you to write a check to somebody, otherwise they're likely to assess you as being more of an irritant than your business is worth.  |
07-07-2016, 12:32 PM
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Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?
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They all have flat torque curves and the HP is generally linear, preferably in an upward direction. |
06-28-2016, 08:35 AM
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Neither. RPM 4.375" steel crank.
Yes, you can run about 12.5:1 on E85.
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06-28-2016, 04:28 PM
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Dude........................................
The bore is .060" over standard: 4.060". The crank is a 4.375" stroke.
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06-28-2016, 04:55 PM
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Sorry, brain fart on typing it in. 
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06-28-2016, 05:04 PM
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Pretty stout.
Whats the guess on E85 ?
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06-28-2016, 05:12 PM
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Going from 10:1 to ~12.5:1 would probably add another 30-40 hp.
The block I mentioned above is half filled with block filler so you'd need to run an oil cooler. |
06-28-2016, 05:40 PM
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I have the Canton pre-oiler, pump, lines and oil cooler. New never installed.
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06-28-2016, 08:34 PM
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My 514 was a stock ford performance with 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and was as fast as my old 427 side oiler even though they don't have a great reputation I regret ever selling that cobra with that motor
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06-28-2016, 10:46 PM
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Bet it sounded good too.
Not that it really matters, but how was the fuel mileage?
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06-29-2016, 06:23 AM
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Kevin, did you attend the London Cobra Show last week?
I saw a Cobra in front of the Holiday Inn with a tag FUNFER2.
I did not take a picture. Wish I had.
Dwight
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06-29-2016, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
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My 514 was a stock ford performance with 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and was as fast as my old 427 side oiler even though they don't have a great reputation I regret ever selling that cobra with that motor
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All that tells us is your "old 427 side oiler" made about 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and could have no way been a stock motor. |
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