FE ONLY OR 514ci. CRATE IN YOUR,....COBRA ?

[FUNFER2]

Damn, too bad this one was sold long time ago !

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[blykins]

Nope. 331 was the smallest. However, this is a bored 352 block, .060" over standard.

$5280 for an assembled short block. Would include the machined block, a billet steel camshaft of your choice (hydraulic roller, solid roller), degreed by me with a Cloyes billet timing set, RPM 4.375" forged crank, internally balanced, with a custom set of Racetec forged pistons and a set of Scat H-beam connecting rods. Mahle piston rings, Federal Mogul main/rod bearings, Durabond cam bearings. Block painted your color choice.

[FUNFER2]

Is that with a 390 or 428 crank ?

To increase HP & TQ, what if it ran on E85, so we could have higher compression ?

Of course that's with every engine.

[blykins]

Neither. RPM 4.375" steel crank.

Yes, you can run about 12.5:1 on E85.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by blykins

Nope. 331 was the smallest. However, this is a bored 352 block, .060" over standard.

$5280 for an assembled short block. Would include the machined block, a billet steel camshaft of your choice (hydraulic roller, solid roller), degreed by me with a Cloyes billet timing set, RPM 4.375" forged crank, internally balanced, with a custom set of Racetec forged pistons and a set of Scat H-beam connecting rods. Mahle piston rings, Federal Mogul main/rod bearings, Durabond cam bearings. Block painted your color choice.

It's amazing that it is a 60 over and 4.375 bore. That's huge. lol

So, with a proper sized hydro or mechanical cam, intake and good heads on E85, what's your guess on HP/TQ, torque curve & RPM range ?

[blykins]

Dude........................................

The bore is .060" over standard: 4.060". The crank is a 4.375" stroke.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

It's amazing that it is a 60 over and 4.375 bore. That's huge. lol

So, with a proper sized hydro or mechanical cam, intake and good heads on E85, what's your guess on HP/TQ, torque curve & RPM range ?

Here's one example from Brent's site ( Lykins Motorsports, LLC ): 445 ci FE, 525 hp @ 5500, 588 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.080 x 4.250, Scat 9000 series crankshaft, Scat I-beam rods, Racetec pistons, 10:1. Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller cam, 235/241 @ .050", 110 LSA, .610" lift. Survival Motorsports as cast cylinder heads, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel HR-750 carb. Stuska dyno.

Above is 4.080" bore vs 4.060", and stroke is 4.250" vs 4.375". So, slightly smaller bore and 1/8" longer stroke, making it slightly bigger at 453 CID vs 445 CID. All things being equal, it should produce similar HP and torque.

Camshaft selection will be important, and I'd recommend taking Brent's advice on that.

[FUNFER2]

Sorry, brain fart on typing it in.

[FUNFER2]

Pretty stout.

Whats the guess on E85 ?

[blykins]

Going from 10:1 to ~12.5:1 would probably add another 30-40 hp.

The block I mentioned above is half filled with block filler so you'd need to run an oil cooler.

[FUNFER2]

I have the Canton pre-oiler, pump, lines and oil cooler. New never installed.

[csx4910]

My 514 was a stock ford performance with 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and was as fast as my old 427 side oiler even though they don't have a great reputation I regret ever selling that cobra with that motor

[FUNFER2]

Bet it sounded good too.
Not that it really matters, but how was the fuel mileage?

[Dwight]

Kevin, did you attend the London Cobra Show last week?

I saw a Cobra in front of the Holiday Inn with a tag FUNFER2.

I did not take a picture. Wish I had.

Dwight

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by csx4910

My 514 was a stock ford performance with 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and was as fast as my old 427 side oiler even though they don't have a great reputation I regret ever selling that cobra with that motor

All that tells us is your "old 427 side oiler" made about 625 hp and 620 ft/lbs and could have no way been a stock motor.

[FUNFER2]

Hi Dwright, no, but when I do get the Cobra going again, I just hope nobody takes my car plate, 427HISS.

[FUNFER2]

Rather than starting a different thread, this is at least an FE and a possibly a way to go. (I would not pay 7k)

This ad is on another FE forum for sale.

I have a New Old Stock 427 FE Short Block I am going to sell. It still has the FORD ID tag on it. $7,000 Complete. May Separate.

Here are the details.

NOS 427 FE Side Oiler, Hydraulic Lifter, Service Block dated 2G6 (July 6, 1972)
NOS STD./STD. C5AE-C Forged $ Crankshaft with screw in plugs & FoMoCo STD. Main Bearings
NOS C6AE-E 427 LeMans Rods, Bolts & FoMoCo STD. Rod Bearings
NOS C5AE-6110-AU MR Pistons with FoMoCo STD. Rings
NOS C3AZ-AA 427 Solid Lifter Camshaft. (VBX) Advertised Duration 306/306, Lift .500/.500
NOS FoMoCo Nylon Timing Gear Set
The Complete Shortblock was sprayed with Cosmoline years ago. I cleaned the Ctankshaft, Pistons, Rods, Cam and Bearings. The Block is partially cleaned but some of the Paint Dabs were coming off so I didn't complete the cleaning.
END-

I know that old rods could have issues, but if a engine shop tests them and are sound, why couldn't they be used, if kept under their RPM range ?

Being a NOS, I would like to use every part it comes with, except the bearings, bolts and such, but what about the cam & pistons, if they also pass the tests ?

[RodKnock]

I'm sure I'm missing something, because I'm not an engine builder, but it's a hydraulic lifter block and the seller is supplying a solid lifter cam? I'm assuming there's some sort of block prep to convert the block to accept solid lifters?

An NOS 1972 service block does nothing for me. NOS only means something to buyers who have a car/truck made roughly a bit after the production date of the vehicle that originally came with a sideoiler. So the owner can falsely claim that the block was replaced under warranty or some other such nonsense.

I'd get a Big Bear or Pond Block and be done with it.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I'm sure I'm missing something, because I'm not an engine builder, but it's a hydraulic lifter block and the seller is supplying a solid lifter cam? I'm assuming there's some sort of block prep to convert the block to accept solid lifters?

My block is a hydro and you just plug off those galleys for a solid. Nothing to it. A lot of builders actually leave them open, btw.

[FUNFER2]

I agree, but for bragging rights and for me having a "virgin", new....427 side oiler in my Cobra is great. Would I do it, hum....... realisticly, probably not, unless it was a carb to oil pan NOS engine.

Fun to imagine though.

If HP didn't matter etc.......Would you have the NOS, or rather a new modern,....side oiler ?