Thoughts on an FFR car at $50k

[jhv48]

Nicely done build. Warmed over SBF engine, middle of the road optioned.

Realistically should be priced around $40k and accept any offer close to that.

In order to be worth north of $40k, I would expect IRS, real pin drive wheels and an FE in the engine bay.

Just sayin!

[twin turbo]

It's interesting what some members find valuable. For instance, I wouldn't even want a pin drive car, others think it's a must have. I prefer an aftermarket (such as Dart) block, others want an original type factory block.

Back to the OP's question, I have seen a few F5's go for that much, but not with those components. I have seen some pretty crazy prices at used car dealerships, but they usually leave lots of room for negotiation in the price. Cheers.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by twin turbo

It's interesting what some members find valuable. For instance, I wouldn't even want a pin drive car...

And why would that be?

[lippy]

I agree it's not anywhere near a $50k car. Nice car, but for $30k.

[Rich A]

it's missing a lot of things to make that FF a $50k car

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Rich A

it's missing a lot of things to make that FF a $50k car

... like a cash buyer.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by patrickt

And why would that be?

Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.

I don't understand -- is there something wrong with the FFR pin-drives? As opposed to the six pin jobs on say, my ERA, RodKnock's Kirkham, etc.?

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I don't understand -- is there something wrong with the FFR pin-drives? As opposed to the six pin jobs on say, my ERA, RodKnock's Kirkham, etc.?

Don't know anything about FFR pin-drives just speculating on his opinion based on my Corvette KO background. Original Corvette KOs have an adaptor secured by lug nuts separate from the KO pins. GM used long lug nuts to prevent owners from mis-indexing the wheels on the lug nuts and coming loose. It works except some people lose the long lug nuts and use standard lug nuts, mis-index a wheel and next thing they know they have one come off. It's not the best system and if you have a background in old Corvettes, it sort of gives all KOs a bad rap. For what it's worth - I've had KOs on my Corvette for 25 years and experienced one instance of finding one a little loose - but never lost one.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Don't know anything about FFR pin-drives just speculating on his opinion based on my Corvette KO background. Original Corvette KOs have an adaptor secured by lug nuts separate from the KO pins. GM used long lug nuts to prevent owners from mis-indexing the wheels on the lug nuts and coming loose. It works except some people lose the long lug nuts and use standard lug nuts, mis-index a wheel and next thing they know they have one come off. It's not the best system and if you have a background in old Corvettes, it sort of gives all KOs a bad rap. For what it's worth - I've had KOs on my Corvette for 25 years and experienced one instance of finding one a little loose - but never lost one.

Alright, that's a good answer. I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen a FFR with six pin drives. I don't think I have.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Possibly for the same reason a lot of 63 - 67 Corvette owners have sworn off KO wheels - too many instances of them falling off and causing a lot of damage due to improper installation and owners/mechanics not paying attention to what they are doing. They even market fake Corvette KOs now that bolt on and the factory cone and spinner conceal the lug nuts - can't tell them apart.

I owned a '66 Corvette convertible for a very long time. I bought and installed the KO's, but they came loose often enough that I removed them and sold them. The Corvette KO manufacturers may have changed the wheels over the year, so I'm not familiar with today's product, but there's no comparison to the pin drive Trigo wheels on my Kirkham. While I don't drive thousands of miles every year, they've not come loose. They're as tight as the day I bought the car. And I have no fear of it either.

[patrickt]

Yes, I give mine no thought whatsoever. I walk around and glance at the safety wire before each drive but, other than that, nothing else other than antiseize and they've never loosened.

[1795]

Ditto. I put between 4,000-6,000 miles per year on my 6 pin drive and never had them loosen, even under hard driving.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by jhv48

Nicely done build. Warmed over SBF engine, middle of the road optioned.

Realistically should be priced around $40k and accept any offer close to that.

In order to be worth north of $40k, I would expect IRS, real pin drive wheels and an FE in the engine bay.

Just sayin!

I think you're accurate. A very nice car. $30,000-$35,000 seems too cheap to me. $45,000-$50,000 is searching for the ignorant buyer. Seller would be lucky to find someone to buy it for above $40K. A very good deal at $35,000. So, high $30's is probably where I think it should sell.