Which Cobra Handles Best?

[csense]

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[HSC-ZL1]

I don't think you can call any brand the best handling. With todays available upgrades, just about any cobra can out perform it's driver, especially on the street. A Shell valley competes at Pikes Peak( I think that can be called street racing with attitude) and does very well. I have road raced motorcycles, and I think I can say that no street will compare to winning a national level road race against some of the best riders or drivers on a track like Road America. I have taken my cobra on several good roads, and enjoy going at a brisk but within my limits pace. I have auto crossed it, and on street tires, gotten with in a couple seconds of the leaders. Just having fun and probably only at 90% of my limits. Its a Shell valley that fits my needs. The street is for enjoying the drive, the race track is for going fast.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by csense

Yeah, autocross is pretty cool. I've enjoyed it from time to time. But there's a lack of 'grace' to it. It's a bit hyper. I like to set up a nice flow and rhythm and you need maybe 10 or 12 miles of a good road to do it. I also liked Maui's video. But it's a bit amusing too. You're worried about me going 8/10 on the back roads, but you guys are driving fiberglass go karts at these high speeds on a racetrack? Who's life is really at risk here? And Maui's video is really about full throttle on the straights and maybe 8/10ths in the corners. There's no serious braking or accelerating while still in the turn. The steering wheel is quite relaxed. Here's a video of a Cobra at 10/10ths and it's scary. This guy is very good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btqQrpnpXj4 Give it some time until he passes all the slow guys. When he gets to the front, it gets very interesting.

I enjoy watching that video - awesome driving, and the only cars up front at the end of the qualifying lap seem to be other Cobras.
As to your question about who's really at risk - its purely assinine, self centered garbage. On the track the folks there are trained, equipped and following protocols. They also are there voluntarily, knowing what to expect from themselves and each other.

Taking it to the street, you're by yourself in your fantasy street racer world, only you're also surrounded by pedestrian drivers, soccer moms and all manner of distracted people just using the roads to get where they're going. You're pulling them into your BS and endangering them without their knowledge or consent.

A bit of discretionary spirited driving on a nice road? Sure why not. But what you're talking about and comparing it to track driving is utter unadulterated crap.

Have a nice day and be safe out there.

[LMH]

Am I the only one who thinks the OP's posts look more like inexperienced teenager rather than someone with "50 years" experience who's "bored" of track racing?
Larry

[Snake2998]

Originally Posted by LMH

Am I the only one who thinks the OP's posts look more like inexperienced teenager rather than someone with "50 years" experience who's "bored" of track racing?
Larry

An interesting thought - some years ago on another forum there was someone talking about how he was getting the most power and handling in a BMW M3 as it was too tame and he wanted to push things more.. Going from memory it turned out to be some teenager who killed himself and some friends in his Dad's M3 by driving off a cliff and landing in a tree.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by LMH

Am I the only one who thinks the OP's posts look more like inexperienced teenager rather than someone with "50 years" experience who's "bored" of track racing?
Larry

He reminds me of trolls past...

[eschaider]

I think the OP has already made up his mind the SPF variety is his hero replica, as is evidenced by his positive commentary vis-a-vis alternative replica's.

Morris may well have one of the best developed racing variants of the car today and the OP obviously does not value Morris' commentary and in fact pays no attention.

I believe what we have here is a more skillful variant of the newbie site member asking the quintessential which is better question while attempting to get you guys to validate his current hero manufacturer, and that assumes he really has two SPF's.

This particular newbie is much more skillful at positioning you guys into the old question / argument of what is best and then suckering you into confirming his preferred choice of Replica manufacturer. His posts are vacuous and only designed to solicit replica manufacturer endorsements for his hero manufacturer.

In years gone by you would sniff this ruse out much more quickly — are we getting old(er)?


Ed

[Buzz]

Quite a number of years ago, there was a member here with a hot-rodded green Everett Morrison who started a similar thread about his street racing exploits. He ended up being killed when a Mustang he was racing clipped his rear quarter and he spun backwards into a tree or maybe a house. He died from head trauma and his female passenger, on the side with no roll bar, survived. Last I remember hearing, criminal charges were also being laid.
I'd hate to see a repeat of that scenario or anything similar involving another member of the Cobra fraternity.

EDIT - you do have a point, Ed

[eschaider]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Quite a number of years ago, there was a member here with a hot-rodded green Everett Morrison who started a similar thread about his street racing exploits. He ended up being killed when a Mustang he was racing clipped his rear quarter and he spun backwards into a tree or maybe a house. He died from head trauma and his female passenger, on the side with no roll bar, survived. Last I remember hearing, criminal charges were also being laid.
I'd hate to see a repeat of that scenario or anything similar involving another member of the Cobra fraternity.

EDIT - you do have a point, Ed

We are on the same page Buzz.

I would feel bad to see innocent bystanders suffer injury because of an unqualified driver in over his head. On the other hand if he can engineer his crash to include only himself — it does clean up the gene pool ...


Ed

[csense]

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[LMH]

Well that was interesting!
Larry

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by LMH

Well that was interesting!
Larry

Missed it

[cycleguy55]

It's interesting how OP's posts have now all been edited to reflect only the word 'cancel' - he must have re-considered his ill-thought comments. SMH

[rodneym]

He cancelled ALL of his posts on this thread?!?!
He'll be back, with a new name.

[Buzz]

Shame it ended up like this. It's nice to follow a good discussion about handling improvements, especially when heavyweights like Morris join in - too bad it got sidetracked by the street racing stuff.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Shame it ended up like this. It's nice to follow a good discussion about handling improvements, especially when heavyweights like Morris join in - too bad it got sidetracked by the street racing stuff.

Agreed - a healthy discussion is good, but street racing shows a lack of maturity and a disregard for the safety of others IMO.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

He cancelled ALL of his posts on this thread?!?!
He'll be back, with a new name.

Maybe it was Chas....

[D-CEL]

Sigh.....
In typical Club Cobra fashion, the enthusiastic newcomer, comes here to learn from those that have what he dreams of and discuss what he is passionate about. Is.....chased away by holier-than-thou, self important old farts.

Try to remember. Back when the thrill of owning a Cobra wasn't sitting in a parking lot talking about who's replica is closer to "original", your swollen prostates, and ED.
Before the desire for the car became jaded by the reality of owning one.
When the dream of the legend were all consuming.
When it was all about the drive.
By the way, tell me more about how all of you calmly say no when challenged at a stop light!! That's absolute HS and you know it.
Hypocrisy in its purest form.


Sorry csense

Jason

[LMH]

Originally Posted by D-CEL

Sigh.....
In typical Club Cobra fashion, the enthusiastic newcomer, comes here to learn from those that have what he dreams of and discuss what he is passionate about. Is.....chased away by holier-than-thou, self important old farts.

Try to remember. Back when the thrill of owning a Cobra wasn't sitting in a parking lot talking about who's replica is closer to "original", your swollen prostates, and ED.
Before the desire for the car became jaded by the reality of owning one.
When the dream of the legend were all consuming.
When it was all about the drive.
By the way, tell me more about how all of you calmly say no when challenged at a stop light!! That's absolute HS and you know it.
Hypocrisy in its purest form.


Sorry csense

Jason

Hey wait a second! I'm 53! That's not "old fart"! Maybe middle aged fart but not old fart!
Larry

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by D-CEL

Sigh.....
In typical Club Cobra fashion, the enthusiastic newcomer, comes here to learn from those that have what he dreams of and discuss what he is passionate about. Is.....chased away by holier-than-thou, self important old farts.

Try to remember. Back when the thrill of owning a Cobra wasn't sitting in a parking lot talking about who's replica is closer to "original", your swollen prostates, and ED.
Before the desire for the car became jaded by the reality of owning one.
When the dream of the legend were all consuming.
When it was all about the drive.
By the way, tell me more about how all of you calmly say no when challenged at a stop light!! That's absolute HS and you know it.
Hypocrisy in its purest form.


Sorry csense

Jason

I may be a fart, but I resemble the "old" remark.