Frustrated with superformance

[Ron61]

Well this thread seems to be headed the way many go. I really don't see where a lot more information can be added as the original question has been answered in about as many ways as possible.

Ron

[hauss]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Well this thread seems to be headed the way many go. I really don't see where a lot more information can be added as the original question has been answered in about as many ways as possible.

Ron

Well then; I guess it is a sin Ron, to ask a direct honest answer, to a bunch of cobra owners.I have tried to read between the lines,get educated,but the lines get blurry sometimes.

[BDR_Boy]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Well this thread seems to be headed the way many go. I really don't see where a lot more information can be added as the original question has been answered in about as many ways as possible.

Ron

Amen.

[hauss]

surely there must be a least someone with a different view point then you two?

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by hauss

surely there must be a least someone with a different view point then you two?

mr Hauss, your thread was hijacked by the usual 2 or 3 serial posters. So, they gonna ruin your cobra experiences.

checkout other brands. You're paying a hefty shelby licensing fee from superformance and it's still considered as a kit-car at coffee car shows.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by hauss

surely there must be a least someone with a different view point then you two?

I've got a good feeling for you. I think you're going to land a nice SPF, in a price range to your liking, provided you are ready to pounce with cash the moment it comes your way.

[rodneym]

Fear not, hauss.
This is like a gang initiation. You have to get "jumped" to be admitted.

As Pat said, what you want isn't impossible at that price, you just don't have options right now. Something will present itself.

As frustrating as it is, this is a great time for you. You're in the driver's seat, although not the one you're looking for.

Remember, as you learn more, your tastes will change. That's kinda how life works (at least for me ).

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

mr Hauss, your thread was hijacked by the usual 2 or 3 serial posters. So, they gonna ruin your cobra experiences.

checkout other brands. You're paying a hefty shelby licensing fee from superformance and it's still considered as a kit-car at coffee car shows.

How much is the Shelby licensing fee? How "hefty" is it? You don't know. And you never will.

If the thread has been hijacked by anyone, then it's by you. You don't own a Cobra, you've never driven a Cobra, you will never own a Cobra and you make ridiculous statements that clearly lack any knowledge of the product.

You should stick to posting in the watch, diamond and of course the Harry Potter forums.

[vntgspd]

Originally Posted by hauss

first let me say I have been talking to the folks at Hilbank and have no problems with them . Even talked with the CEO . I have spent many hours on the net searching. The add I found said it was from them I called them and they said they had no 2017 models for that price. so yes could have been old add or just spam or what I do not know. FYI. 65k is a lot of money for a car that is a representation of a car.

If this is your opinion that you are buying into a "representation" then it's no wonder that you are struggling with this. The Superformance, ERA, KMS, and others are "factory built" and hand made by craftsman to varying degrees. They are well engineered, well built cars capable of handling modern traffic on modern roads every day if you wish. They are part art, part thrill, part nostalgia, but all car.

Here's another option that would require less risk but more legwork for you:
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...i/2102356.html

Figure a little negotiation, $500 for an inspection, $2000 for shipping, 8-10 hours of your time over 4-8 weeks for SB100 registration (you can drive it immediately because you will get a paper tag) and you have a blue/white Superformance for well under $50k. Take care of it and it will be worth about the same when you are done with it.

Or, keep reaching out for other opinions. Either way this thread has been entertaining.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

How much is the Shelby licensing fee? How "hefty" is it? You don't know. And you never will.

If the thread has been hijacked by anyone, then it's by you. You don't own a Cobra, you've never driven a Cobra, you will never own a Cobra and you make ridiculous statements that clearly lack any knowledge of the product.

You should stick to posting in the watch, diamond and of course the Harry Potter forums.

Rod,

You win the internet today! True dat statement.

[DanEC]

They are a representation of a 60s era Cobra - but in many ways a lot of them are better to even considerably improved. The originals used a lot of Lucas based electronics - and we all know what that means. The originals used thinner wall chassis members than newer recreations. Most quality replicas are far superior in chassis stiffness and even suspension geometry. (I hope Cobra#3170 forgives me but we know he has sleeved the original chassis and worked on suspension tuning taking it to the highest level just about possible). The originals had aluminum bodies but it was relatively thin, easily dented aluminum pounded out over wooden bucks and no two bodies were exactly alike, not even from side to side on a single body. Then they were slathered with filler to smooth them out a bit. Engine and powertrain technology is greatly improved over originals. I suppose SC brakes were very good but Street Roadster brakes were probably nothing to write home about compared to modern day counterparts. I have an older 66 Corvette and my ERA easily outrides and out handle it over most surfaces. And it's far superior in tightness and lack of rattles, squeaks and shaking as compared to most open cars from the 50s and 60s. Ever ridden in a 50s era Corvette or a 60s TR-4 on a less than perfect road? I was always afraid they would shake apart before we made it back home. Considering the limited production quantities and the level of performance and quality in many of the turn-key manufactures, it sort of amazes me that they don't cost even more.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by hauss

surely there must be a least someone with a different view point then you two?

There must be, and don't call me Shirley.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by hauss

65k is a lot of money for a car that is a representation of a car.

What would it cost to buy a comparable race car, give it a good paint job and make it street legal, then add Shelby's licensing fee? That's probably getting pretty close to $65K.

You have to pay to play. Don't way to pay? Your decision.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

You have to pay to play. Don't way to pay? Your decision.

Wait a minute... I wrote that on the very first reply to the OP's opening post.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Wait a minute... I wrote that on the very first reply to the OP's opening post.

And you also said that you've "come full circle" and recommended (s)he buy a motorhome. Are we running a scoreboard here on CC?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

And you also said that you've "come full circle" and recommended (s)he buy a motorhome. Are we running a scoreboard here on CC?

Yes, but I've come full circle a couple of times. I now believe hauss is, indeed, pledge class material and we can send the ballot box around on him any time.

[RodKnock]

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Wait a minute... I wrote that on the very first reply to the OP's opening post.

Great minds think alike. Some are just slower than others.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by vntgspd

If this is your opinion that you are buying into a "representation" then it's no wonder that you are struggling with this. The Superformance, ERA, KMS, and others are "factory built" and hand made by craftsman to varying degrees. They are well engineered, well built cars capable of handling modern traffic on modern roads every day if you wish. They are part art, part thrill, part nostalgia, but all car.

Here's another option that would require less risk but more legwork for you:
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...i/2102356.html

Figure a little negotiation, $500 for an inspection, $2000 for shipping, 8-10 hours of your time over 4-8 weeks for SB100 registration (you can drive it immediately because you will get a paper tag) and you have a blue/white Superformance for well under $50k. Take care of it and it will be worth about the same when you are done with it.

Or, keep reaching out for other opinions. Either way this thread has been entertaining.

Only 65 posts over 5years?
With gold nuggets like this I feel you're not sharing often enough with us.

If I were in your shoes hauss, this is exactly how I would approach it!
Still leaves you at least $20k for any upgrades or repairs or a down payment on a motorhome.
Everyone wins, even the wife.

Good luck.

[PeteM]

Hauss, what you are saying is that you want a perfect car but they are just too expensive? What others have said is just wait, hope, pray even? Maybe that magic will come together and you'll get that dream car for a song. You contacted me about my BDR for sale quite a while ago and had many questions that I was happy to answer. Then, out of the blue, you sent me an email saying that your friend told you that an older BDR was only worth $30K. At that time I realized you were working, living in, some different dimension. To make an arbitrary statement such as that was proof to me that you were not a serious contender and frankly, don't know what you want, nor do you understand value. Then you followed up with, " I see your car is still for sale, maybe my friend was right?" For the record, I have not advertised selling the car anywhere else but here. And I have not been aggressively doing so, just answering questions. All that said, this post has been interesting!
Also, for the record, before I bought this car I spoke to my local Cobra club president and asked him about all brands of Cobra kit cars. His opinion was that there are pros and cons to all manufacturers but the most important factor was how well the car is put together. My car is the third Cobra built by my mechanic/builder. His last was a factory 5 that won 4 or 5 trophy's, including "best engineered car" at an all Cobra show at the Anaheim Convention Center. there were over 200 cars at that meet and he feels this one is the best yet.
PeteM