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Old 04-12-2018, 12:13 PM
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I have been looking to buy a ac cobra for a while now getting ready to retire and want a fun hobby my wife and I could enjoy together. car shows ,wine tours country drive scaring the wife once in a while as well as myself. That being said superformance was recommended to me as a top notch replica car. The problem was I found a 69k one that turned into a 84k one that got sold and now anything I would want is 96k! I could buy a roller but by the time it was done it would be 84k .I found a backdraft for 50k but I have been told they have windsheild motor mount and rearend problems .I was told they are great cars but they were only made for 300hp. Not sure what to do maybe just forget the whole thing! Please help
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:25 PM
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Unfortunately there is an abundance of old men with money, and a shortage of quality CSX/KMS/ERA/SPF cars. That translates in to a "new" turnkey cresting the six figure mark and nice used ones heading in that direction. Sad, but true. On another thread we were discussing the rumor that the wait time for new ERA turnkeys is knocking on two years. I think the Cobra game is getting to be like Washington DC -- you gotta "pay to play."
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Here is a nice car for $69,000 we have available. And it came from California so it already has an SB100!
https://www.timemachineauto.com/resales.html
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This is a very nice Superformance and it has the SB-100 number already and in this state that is a lot. Most of the Superformances that I see around here have an FE engine in them but some went with the small block strokers. And they are definitely very good cars.

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https://www.timemachineauto.com/resales.html
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This is a very nice Superformance and it has the SB-100 number already and in this state that is a lot. Most of the Superformances that I see around here have an FE engine in them but some went with the small block strokers. And they are definitely very good cars.

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This is a VERY nice car, the owner is very particular and is moving this on as he is planning on a 2019 GT500 to go with his 2012 GT500. We only broker cars we know or can document and this is a Superformance that is on market for the value. The SB100 is just the icing as the owner bought it from California and shipped it to New York.
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I have had A BDR with a coyote motor with 492HP and a T56 transmission for approx 2 1/2 years now. Never had a problem with the windshield, motormounts or the differential. I have had a lot of fun with it so far.

Don't know who has been giving you false information. Fake News problably.

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Here is a nice car for $69,000 we have available. And it came from California so it already has an SB100!
https://www.timemachineauto.com/resales.html
Has it ever been proven, an actual documented case, that a Cobra, GT40, etc. (or any SB100/SPCNS vehicle) that has been registered in CA under the SB100/SPCNS law and then subsequently re-registered in another state, say like NY, came back into CA and was registered again in CA without having to go through the SB100/SPCNS process a 2nd time?

I haven't heard of one.
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I haven't heard of one.
Probably 'cause there ain't one. BUT, I see the OP is from Lodi, which calls to mind that old CCR song, which I'm sure you're a fan of.

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Probably 'cause there ain't one. BUT, I see the OP is from Lodi, which calls to mind that old CCR song, which I'm sure you're a fan of.
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Unfortunately there is an abundance of old men with money, and a shortage of quality CSX/KMS/ERA/SPF cars. That translates in to a "new" turnkey cresting the six figure mark and nice used ones heading in that direction. Sad, but true. On another thread we were discussing the rumor that the wait time for new ERA turnkeys is knocking on two years. I think the Cobra game is getting to be like Washington DC -- you gotta "pay to play."
Well said and VERY true - I have over 30 CSX Shelby fiberglass and alum CSX 289 & 427 rollers I am selling off and nothing is under $ 100,00.00 in roller form

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I highly recommend you look at a car like this one in the for sale section. Unique Motorcars builds a beautiful, well-engineered replica that is more accurate than most, and it enjoys great manufacturer and owner community support.

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I have been looking to buy a ac cobra for a while now getting ready to retire and want a fun hobby my wife and I could enjoy together. car shows ,wine tours country drive scaring the wife once in a while as well as myself. That being said superformance was recommended to me as a top notch replica car. The problem was I found a 69k one that turned into a 84k one that got sold and now anything I would want is 96k! I could buy a roller but by the time it was done it would be 84k .I found a backdraft for 50k but I have been told they have windsheild motor mount and rearend problems .I was told they are great cars but they were only made for 300hp. Not sure what to do maybe just forget the whole thing! Please help
Don't give up yet - Superformance MKIIIs:

4 for sale, from $60K - $73K. https://superformance.org/forsale/

$69K: http://www.hillbankusa.com/car/sale-...90-convertible

$85K: http://www.hillbankusa.com/car/sale-...78-convertible
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Like above check out hillbank and 427 Cobra Country--Ford AC Cobra replica manufacturers SUPER-SITE. Demand is high especially this time of year so watch cobracountry daily.
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A member here sold a super nice ERA I was able to check out while putting together my order for a new one. I would check out the sites guys have mentioned and post a want ad. I opted to go new based on the things I wanted. Didn't want to retro fit things otherwise I know the car I would have purchased which sold fast!
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As a general rule of thumb, buyers will get what they pay for. Cobra's that are more expensive, in fact are more expensive for a reason.

There was a time when you could buy a kit and save some money on the overall package by the time you were done. In actual fact your were just trading you time and effort for the difference in dollars.

The number of different disciplines necessary to build a car from scratch are indeed impressive. In the hopper you should include electrician skills, mechanical fabrication skills, drivetrain design, installation and tuning skills, general contractor machinist skills (unless you do your own machine work), engine building and assembly skills, body finishing skills and of course painting skills and those are just the obvious ones for the ante at the builders poker table.

If you can handle some or all of those types of issues you can reduce the amount of money you will need to get the car operational. If you've never done that sort of work then you need to pay someone who knows how to do it (they tend to be more expensive) do it for you.

While $35K Cobra's can be found they are probably not what you intuitively wanted and the buyer's remorse that sets in after the purchase takes all the fun out of the car until it ends up sitting in your garage for what seems like forever. Then one day you decide to simplify your life and sell the Cobra for pennies on the dollar you spent, to get to the place you did not want to be.

I think your dissatisfaction is less with SPF and more with your election to put off acquiring a car when it was more affordable. Once you make the decision to become a Cobra owner you are signing up for much more than the Detroit built performance cars available today that you can put a new set of wheels and tires on, have a good time and generally feel good about the car.

The sad but true, real world experience is that you are the owner of a modern day replica, of a classic balls out race car, that likely operates at a higher performance level than the original championship cars it is replicating. Most significantly you own the honor / responsibility of both bringing it to life and maintaining it — and almost independent of how you drive it, you most probably aren't ready for what that maintenance regimen implies.


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I agree with a lot of what you are saying but your not saying it all. My father fought in the korean war was shot a total of 3 times and had three sons of which I am one of those sons.A big price was paid for me just to grow up in this great country. So what I am saying is 50k American Dallars is a Hell of ALOT OF MONEY ! For a car built in south africa
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I agree with a lot of what you are saying but your not saying it all. My father fought in the korean war was shot a total of 3 times and had three sons of which I am one of those sons.A big price was paid for me just to grow up in this great country. So what I am saying is 50k American Dallars is a Hell of ALOT OF MONEY ! For a car built in south africa
So buy one built in the USA? ERA comes to mind among the top of the heap (:
You still have not stated what features you want, but pre-owned ERA cars can range from $50-70K depending on equipment and how much you want to "fix".
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So buy one built in the USA? ERA comes to mind among the top of the heap (:
You still have not stated what features you want, but pre-owned ERA cars can range from $50-70K depending on equipment and how much you want to "fix".
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So what I am saying is 50k American Dallars is a Hell of ALOT OF MONEY ! For a car built in south africa
You know what they say, "you can't take it with you." Maybe if you lay out the specifics of what you want, and your skill level, we can help steer you in a direction that will make you happy in the long run. But, as I said in my first post, this has become a rather expensive hobby, considering these are just stupid toys....
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