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05-29-2018, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Apopka,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Building 289 Lemans / FFR mkIV chassis w/ Bruce Chervenak
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As for Billboard tires vs Avons... I've owned a set of cool looking yet squirrely Billboards. I'll be going with a set of Avons next go 'round... There are some things you just have to pay for if you want them. As much as I've tried to prove to myself otherwise, I've learned it's best to just pay the bill the first time rather than try to convince yourself the compromise was a "good deal" that you eventually have to pay to replace with what actually makes you happy.
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05-30-2018, 08:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 351W
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ive had both avons and mt st's. i prefer mt to the avons. better cold performance, much better wet performance (avons are dangerous in any type of wetness), and equal street performance. avons are better at the track.
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05-31-2018, 05:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
ive had both avons and mt st's. i prefer mt to the avons. better cold performance, much better wet performance (avons are dangerous in any type of wetness), and equal street performance. avons are better at the track.
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I've read that before that, unless you are engaged in serious racing, Avons are not the preferred tire. But, as with many things in life, it's not generally regarded as "politically correct" to say so. 
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05-31-2018, 07:49 AM
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Location: Pleasanton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 824 with 470 FE BBM street 427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastd
ive had both avons and mt st's. i prefer mt to the avons. better cold performance, much better wet performance (avons are dangerous in any type of wetness), and equal street performance. avons are better at the track.
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I have not had Avons, but can vouch for MT STs/Cooper Cobras on the street. Ride, handling, traction are all solid.
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05-31-2018, 08:45 AM
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Location: Prosper,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 #169, Ford 408 Stroker & ZF Transaxle
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I also had MTs, Billboards and now AVONs. Had the MTs on the GT40 prior to the AVONs and what a difference the AVONs make it driveability, handling and traction. Yes they are a bit more expensive but the investment you put in these cars I'd say it is worth it. For years we all complained nobody made a performance 15 inch tire that was worth a dam now we have one.
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05-31-2018, 03:53 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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Like mentioned, I wouldn't mind buying Avon's and getting the newer Billboard tire stickers.
The tread design is close enough to a match for me. With the high cost of the rears, I won't be able to have as much fun with them. As fellow Cobra owner's, you know what I mean.
Does anyone know of business dealers that ever have them on sale or have the lowest price?
Any company's like Tire Rack etc ?
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05-31-2018, 04:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Does anyone know of business dealers that ever have them on sale or have the lowest price?
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SASCO and Roger Krauss, the largest (only?) distributors of Cobra sized Avon tires, never have sales.
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05-31-2018, 04:38 PM
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I'll look up SASCO.
Thanks.
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05-31-2018, 07:38 AM
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I put Avons on about a year ago. I never accelerated 100% with the Billboards on the car. They were eight years old and had the typical side cracks. I just didn't trust them with 600 HP and 510 CI. I now will put the pedal down all the way on occasion with the Avons. I like them much better although I do miss the "wow" factor of the Billboards.
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05-31-2018, 10:03 AM
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I talked to a long time owner of original Cobras who races and tours with them and he recommended Avons also noting they are DOT approved. Ive been in Cobras with billboards and agree that they look cool but my initial impression was it felt like I was in a VW bug. Ride quality is great with Avons imo and Im considering putting them on my GT350 too. And while the $$ is a bit much, compared to the inssurance costs n everything else on these cars its not out of line.
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05-31-2018, 03:41 PM
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Avon’s the default tyre for most of us engaged in any form of motorsport, here in the U.K. Its a quality, strictly controlled manufacture tyre that is relied upon and the ‘control tyre’ in many racing regulations and available in two compounds. It’s also a superb all weather tyre on the road. I’ve not tried the Goodyear Billboards. Have to say I love the look, but have been put off them by the advices of Cobra manufacturers here. I use Avon Zzs on a competition Austin Healey and Cobra. Avon’s are not cheap, but nor is repairing you car if it slides off the road. Don’t go for form over function, when it’s the bit that attaches your car to the road.
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05-31-2018, 06:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: '65 Shelby Cobra, '66 Shelby GT350's
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Unfortunately neither offer sales, the only savings can be on shipping costs if you live fairly close. But since Krause is on the west coast and Sasco Sports is in Virginia it's irrelevant cost wise for someone in Nebraska. You might check with JEGG's, they carry the Goodyears and might be willing to source Avon's if they are a dealer for them as well.
If you decide to go with Mickey Thompson's or something similar Coker Tire carries them in Cobra sizes for a decent price. There just aren't a lot of options in 15" original sized tires.
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05-31-2018, 06:10 PM
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Kraus and SASCO are the only outlets for the CR6ZZ tires. Shop 'till hell freezes over but you won't save a nickel on them.
I have the Avons on my GT40 and compared to the Yoko's on my last '40 it is night an day. WAY better!
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06-01-2018, 03:41 PM
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The Avon’s have scared me one too many times on the street. Once got caught in a downpour and spun out in an intersection. Once in 50 degree weather on cold tires slid/180 degree spin. Avon’s are fantastic when it’s hot outside/they warm up and it’s bone dry outside. For street driving though, you can keep ‘em.
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06-01-2018, 07:26 PM
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Slight change in brand..... but has anyone tried the Michelin TB15 tires? Size wise they are very similar to the Avon's, with the exception of being smaller in diameter. A medium and soft compound can be had at a price point similar to the Avon.
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6S1806, 1966 Shelby GT350 B/P Race car.
6S246, Shelby GT350 "carryover"
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06-01-2018, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
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Slight change in brand..... but has anyone tried the Michelin TB15 tires? Size wise they are very similar to the Avon's, with the exception of being smaller in diameter. A medium and soft compound can be had at a price point similar to the Avon.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...iABEgL0tvD_BwE
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Lol, I just was looking at Summit after seeing a photo of that Coker. The smaller dia is a problem with me, I like the tire to fill up the wheelwell.
COK-71231
$460 ea.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-71231
Mark, no matter as I have 12 years of school. Passed 6th grade twice. 
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06-01-2018, 07:54 PM
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Coker Michelin
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05-25-2020, 05:18 PM
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With so much salt in winter and summer heat here in Ne. pot holes are a disaster to cars, tires and wheels. People today are wrapping their wheels with rubber band tires, and pay for it. Plus, they are rock hard ride.
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06-02-2018, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
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Lol, I just was looking at Summit after seeing a photo of that Coker. The smaller dia is a problem with me, I like the tire to fill up the wheelwell.
COK-71231
$460 ea.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-71231
Mark, no matter as I have 12 years of school. Passed 6th grade twice. 
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Those are really low profile - much lower than I'm looking for, though perhaps good for those looking to autocross on 15" rubber. Comparable $$ to Avons.
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06-02-2018, 02:14 PM
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I prefer 15" wheels for street use, but 17"s for the track as we have a lot of tire choices.
I also like the looks of tire filling up the wheel wells, rather than wheels. The latter makes Cobra's look like a street rod, not a old school muscle car. There's nothing wrong with either though. Plus, less sidewall on the street is harsh, but less sidewall on the road race track is much better. Too bad there isn't more tires for the 15", as time goes by, there's less and less. 
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