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Old 08-28-2020, 03:46 PM
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Just stand back and throw money at it. Trading everything for more stuff to do. like fitting a new column to car, splined U-joints, rewiring. My biggest problem now is information. It seems so hard to get. You ask a question they answer part of it. I asked what a "Schroeder " was and on my own it seems to be a steering system they used on sprint cars. OH is discontinued since 2017. I'm picking up ,bits and pieces. Everyone is stuck on NRG. More than 2 out of 3 videos are how quick and easy NRG is they also show a lot of them getting loose after 2 or 3 months. No one makes flat ( no dish) classic wooden wheels in 6 bolt pattern, they do not make 9 bolt Quick Release Hubs. I see a video that I want to see again , I can't find it. Can't get answers now , what do you think it will be like after they have my money? Have someone else jump through all these hurdles and get charged by the hour by some one that really doesn't care as I do and probably has less resources than I do. You guys at Club Cobra have been such a help most of the time.
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Old 08-28-2020, 04:01 PM
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I asked what a "Schroeder" was...
That was the kid in Peanuts that played the piano.

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I looked it up and it is a family name that until recently made a steering gear that was primarily used on sprint cars The main column and shaft was in front of the driver but just short distance down from the steering wheel the actual steering gear was mounted to the steering column and a right angle shaft with the pitman arm went through the side of the car to move the long drag link forward and back to steer the front wheels. the steering shaft wheel adapter looked as it had a woodruff key and slot. They were supposed to be really tuff and lasted forever, so demand fell off and the family company decided to just stop production in 2017 My burn was with Ididit they didn't say anything other that the sprint car part. when I asked what was a schroeder? They have a great company history story and I really liked the dead spline thing about their Quick Release Hubs but their catalog has small pictures , hardly any spec stuff. and they answer like it's a national secret I'd like" Just the facts mam"
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Mike, the reason you get a lot of the NRG stuff popping up when you do your searches is likely because their QR units have no detectable slop while driving the car. Additionally the low profile 400 series units allow the wheel to be positioned in the same (if you are willing to do a little machine work) or nearly the same position (if you are not willing) as the original wheel.

It feels like you are making this tougher than it has to be. The biggest bug-a-boo is the requirement for the flat wheel center. If that is absolutely important to you there are some manufacturers that could likely make that for you — for a price. I suspect when you get done with those various customizations to get to your desired specs, just buying the ERA column with their excellent QR system already installed like Patrick's car would be the short way home.

You could quickly make a determination of whether or not the low profile NRG unit could work for you by just popping off the center hub on your existing wheel and looking to see how much recess EM provided with the hub on your column. If it approximates an inch or so you are good to go with the low profile NGG unit. The only thing you need to do is machine off an inch or so of hub, redrill it for the NRG 70mm (I believe) PCD and screw everything back together — no other machining or welding required.

I can tell you from my own NRG unit that once the unit locks down it has zero slop in it, so once the wheel is attached the feel is as if the QR hub were not there. The flat spoke wheel requirement you have is either going to cost you a couple hundred dollars for a custom wheel (if you can't find a production wheel) or you could make yourself an adapter that has your existing wheel PCD and one of the two (70 or 75mm) NRG PCD's on it and then reuse your current wheel.


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OK, Michael,

Go to Speedway motors and get their Hot Rod Column. Put your horn on a button on the dash. Look at my photo album. Simple and inexpensive.
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