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06-10-2022, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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06-10-2022, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Wow to that site!
very cool documentation, Kudos
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06-16-2022, 11:41 AM
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I see that it says reduced to 155k, what was it to start with?
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06-16-2022, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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Kanuck, I started @ $165k,
If you're interested, you can call me at 941-730-2020. Open to offers.
Ted
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06-16-2022, 09:20 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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The prices of used Kirkham's must have gone since I've been gone.
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06-17-2022, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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Rodknock:
Not just Kirkhams, all makes of Cobras on BAT seem higher than a couple of years ago.
Fueled by "cabin fever" after two years of Covid ????
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06-17-2022, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MOTORHEAD
Rodknock:
Not just Kirkhams, all makes of Cobras on BAT seem higher than a couple of years ago.
Fueled by "cabin fever" after two years of Covid ????
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I've always watched the prices and feel that it's not really covid related, but market driven, watching the housing market in the same way, awaiting a bubble to burst and seeing homes spending more time on the market at inflated prices getting marked down a week or two in, when before, they were lasting hours, and bidding wars were taking place.
Bill S.
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06-17-2022, 10:43 AM
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I've watched some BAT auctions over the past couple years and prices have risen dramatically. Subaru's for heavens sake are being sold for $200,000-$300,000. Parts for cars on BAT are also crazy too. I have some parts that have tripled in value, if I were to auction them off on BAT.
However, the stock market has tanked, interest rates have risen and I expect prices overall to fall. I've actually moved all my assets into baby formula.
I do get eBay notifications for Kirkham's and I have seen some auctions/ads where the price is over $200,000, but I just thought they were delusions of grandeur.
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06-18-2022, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I've watched some BAT auctions over the past couple years and prices have risen dramatically. Subaru's for heavens sake are being sold for $200,000-$300,000. Parts for cars on BAT are also crazy too. I have some parts that have tripled in value, if I were to auction them off on BAT.
However, the stock market has tanked, interest rates have risen and I expect prices overall to fall. I've actually moved all my assets into baby formula.
I do get eBay notifications for Kirkham's and I have seen some auctions/ads where the price is over $200,000, but I just thought they were delusions of grandeur.
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From what I have heard, brand new Kirkham rollers are over $200k now.
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06-18-2022, 12:53 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Alloy Shelby CSX 8057/Kirkham 1010, 289 Vintage Lykins Build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
From what I have heard, brand new Kirkham rollers are over $200k now.
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I can verify that number from direct interaction with Kirkham.
A new aluminum Shelby CSX roller (using a KMP body and frame) closer to a $250K or more.
I wonder with the stock market decline and impending recession whether this price exuberance will start to dampen.
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06-18-2022, 03:47 PM
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Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nkb
I wonder with the stock market decline and impending recession whether this price exuberance will start to dampen.
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I sincerely doubt you will see prices of anything go down. In all my years going through inflation and recession only very basic commodities change prices. The car prices that have gone up 20% over the past year due to supply chain and other issues are not going to go down when those restrictions are relaxed. Bread, milk, gas, and real estate, yes. Basic goods? Not a lot. The only thing that will change is the RATE of the increases.
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06-18-2022, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
From what I have heard, brand new Kirkham rollers are over $200k now.
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Wait, what? You can't be "talking" about Kirkham's without engines and transmissions? You must mean newly sorted and running Kirkham's?
Last I recall, a Kirkham roller, no engine and trans, advertised on their website was $99,000.
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06-19-2022, 01:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Wait, what? You can't be "talking" about Kirkham's without engines and transmissions? You must mean newly sorted and running Kirkham's?
Last I recall, a Kirkham roller, no engine and trans, advertised on their website was $99,000.
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Nope, that ship has sailed. Kirkham rollers with no engine and transmission $200k plus. And $25k more if you want polished or brushed.
Fundamental change in business model.
You won’t find any pricing on the website either.
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06-19-2022, 02:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nkb
Nope, that ship has sailed. Kirkham rollers with no engine and transmission $200k plus. And $25k more if you want polished or brushed.
Fundamental change in business model.
You won’t find any pricing on the website either.
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Any idea on when prices changed so dramatically? Now I’m too nervous to ever drive my car again. 😀
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06-20-2022, 09:43 AM
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Location: White City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Wait, what? You can't be "talking" about Kirkham's without engines and transmissions? You must mean newly sorted and running Kirkham's?
Last I recall, a Kirkham roller, no engine and trans, advertised on their website was $99,000.
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Yes, Kirkham prices were once easily found on their website. Alas, they no longer provide that information. I follow David Kirkham on FB and I know he has been lamenting the various supply chain issues for some time now. Much of the parts and pieces Kirkham once purchased they no longer buy from suppliers, manufacturing more and more components 'in house'. They've invested in 5-axis CNC mills, heat treating, etc., but even that's been increasingly a problem due to raw materials delays and shortages.
I suspect a good portion of the price increases is due to the above plus, of course, their reputation as the premier manufacturer of replica Cobras has no doubt allowed them to price accordingly.
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06-18-2022, 03:49 PM
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Location: Lafayette,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
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I believe in Indiana a car with a salvage title can resurrected if repaired correctly at least in some cases.
IE a friend bought a mercedes with a blown motor. It had hit a rock and knocked a hole in the pan. He bought a good used motor and subsequently got a clean title I believe.
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06-19-2022, 03:35 PM
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If a new Kirkham roller is $200,000, polishing (or paint) is another $25,000. And I assume engines and trannys aren't cheap either, maybe another $25,000 +/-, plus all the other "little things," doesn't that make Ted's car at roughly a 50% discount "reasonable" given the circumstances?
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06-19-2022, 05:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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I remember back around 2010 Keith Craft was selling a Kirkham in his shop with one of his 482 motors in it for right around $100,000. I even sat in it on the trip to watch my motor dyno test. I knew it was a deal but I was still trying to figure out how to make retirement work and I barely had it figured out with the ERA.
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06-20-2022, 01:13 PM
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body and chassis isn’t everything, a turnkey with original parts, drivetrain and suspension (289) can easily double the price
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06-21-2022, 05:56 PM
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One of the reasons that I stopped coming back to Club Cobra for some years is this "rabbit hole" of a topic. We had 100-page discussions about it. People's beliefs are their own, not everyone has to share them.
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