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Old 06-23-2022, 11:57 AM
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Mister Bill, I knew the original owner, Grumpy Robert as well has Herr Stein, the second so I'm pretty familiar with the FIA. I tried to get Grumpy to trade out the seats, rear end, wheels and spindles since they were what I wished my 2119 had. He didn't want to bother. I don't know what there is about your car that you don't like, but whatever it is can be changed to your liking a lot quicker and cheaper than ordering and waiting for your "dream". Just my 2Ę. See you in Boulder. Karlos
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I love both cars, that is the problem, the FIA pushes all the right buttons that the roadster currently lacks. But the roadster is more refined than the ERA. I’m locked down at the house, awaiting my internet provider to fix their connectivity issues (upgraded speed, now with two techs scattered around the property and me typing this out on my cell phone). I’ve discussed with SWMBO, and spent a few hours (hours) out in the garage sitting in, and reviewing both cars making vroom vroom noises I’m 90% certain I’ll be keeping the current FIA, but to play it safe, I’m going to sleep on it tonight.

Want to say thank you to all of you who posted on topic to this thread, it really has made me step back and think about this from all angles.

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Old 06-23-2022, 03:38 PM
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Don't do it, as of this AM, we are leaning towards keeping the current FIA vs the 289 roadster, as the long term wants and needs for us are aimed towards a dual purpose, HPDE and street car. Still deep in discussion, as a Q2-2024 date for a new SPF-FIA build is causing us to rethink everything. Plan to decide in the next day or so as to not miss the prime season selling window.

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What do you think we need to do to the ERA cars for HPDE track safety? Mechanically I know what to do. Raced and instructed for years. Pretty sure you know my car & build. Always raced in enclosed card with full cage or track days in a sedan. It needs a good 5 or 6 pt. harness. Honestly just concerned about safety. As you are well aware, Itís all good until itís not then your along for the ride. Thinking this should be itís own thread now
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Old 06-23-2022, 05:18 PM
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Don't sell anything right yet. Get a storage locker and park one of the Cobras in it. Leave it until you're absolutely sure you love your new Mustang as much or more as one of the Cobras, then swap Cobras vs Mustang to figure out which rank 1 and 2 and sell #3.
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I'll take the 289 when you are ready! Pirce ?

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Old 06-24-2022, 03:12 AM
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What do you think we need to do to the ERA cars for HPDE track safety? Mechanically I know what to do. Raced and instructed for years. Pretty sure you know my car & build. Always raced in enclosed card with full cage or track days in a sedan. It needs a good 5 or 6 pt. harness. Honestly just concerned about safety. As you are well aware, Itís all good until itís not then your along for the ride. Thinking this should be itís own thread now
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For mine, updated belts with arm restraints, stiffer mounting of the drivers seat, and an AFF style, 4 nozzle fire suppression system. This just off the top of my head (which passes the broomstick test with helmet on). Iíd probably change out some minor items, better brake pads, higher rated cooling fan, the rest of the car is pretty well specíd as it sits.

Sitting here without internet at the house (day 2 of the U-Versa saga), Iíve been going through old catalogs in my office, a dangerous thing. One of the first I ran across was from Jim Inglese, which of course got me thinking of a modern day alternative, like a stack fuel injection setup to replace the aging Demon carb currently on the motor. After all, my birthday is coming up.

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Old 06-24-2022, 03:25 AM
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What do you think we need to do to the ERA cars for HPDE track safety? Mechanically I know what to do. Raced and instructed for years. Pretty sure you know my car & build. Always raced in enclosed card with full cage or track days in a sedan. It needs a good 5 or 6 pt. harness. Honestly just concerned about safety. As you are well aware, Itís all good until itís not then your along for the ride. Thinking this should be itís own thread now
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Forgot to add, your car doesnít need a thing for the track, as Jim (rip) built it for that purpose. A new thread with pictures of your beautiful car would be a good idea

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Full welded roll cage plus a proper racing seat would be optimal for serious track use. If not at least some bolt in side bars. The broomstick test is from the top of the roll bar to the front strut/ upper control arm mount, 2” minimum clearance, most sanctioning bodies going away from the windshield frame as a measurement point. Might be worth checking on first. Good luck and be safe.

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Bill,

You can go to my albums and see what I did to the FIA for racing. You might not want to go to the full extent of welded side bars, as it does make it a pain getting in and out for street use. But, food for thought.

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You can go to my albums and see what I did to the FIA for racing. You might not want to go to the full extent of welded side bars, as it does make it a pain getting in and out for street use. But, food for thought.

Thanks, I'm really thinking of the car for "free sessions" at tracks were I may be instructing. My real racing days are behind me, just not enough in me to even try to get back to a professional racing level. If I did, I'd be in another race prepped 95 "R" model.

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Bill,

Today I saw your "Golden Ticket" SPF FIA. FIA body, street car dash and carpets, full top and bumperettes. Sold so not available, but I think it's what you are thinking of. The 2024 delivery is an issue I understand. Also make sure people know your 289 street roadster has the coveted "SB100" for California should someone want to repatriate it to the Golden State.

Just collected this 289 to handle some of the NYS DMV registration process.
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Bill, as you know my "Real Racing" days are over too. If I ever got serious about Track Days, it would be with a Production car (Tin Top) with At least a 4-point roll bar, and 5–6-point belts, anything less is just asking for trouble. Cobras are great for a lot of things, but crashing is NOT ONE OF THEM!! Cheers Tom.
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Bill, as you know my "Real Racing" days are over too. If I ever got serious about Track Days, it would be with a Production car (Tin Top) with At least a 4-point roll bar, and 5Ė6-point belts, anything less is just asking for trouble. Cobras are great for a lot of things, but crashing is NOT ONE OF THEM!! Cheers Tom.
Thatís my concern. Iím an instructor looking to make some laps. At 65 the racing is behind me. In a cobra things can go bad fast. The protection or lack of it is my concern.
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Today I saw your "Golden Ticket" SPF FIA. FIA body, street car dash and carpets, full top and bumperettes. Sold so not available, but I think it's what you are thinking of. The 2024 delivery is an issue I understand. Also make sure people know your 289 street roadster has the coveted "SB100" for California should someone want to repatriate it to the Golden State.

Just collected this 289 to handle some of the NYS DMV registration process.
Rick, as always, I appreciate your guidance. I'm just sorry I could not assist with the one pictured above....NJ is a fickle state, if you don't follow the "kit car package" to the letter, it's not a pretty site, as the owner now knows well.

I see no pictures of the FIA, you know the rules, if there aren't any pictures, it didn't happen. 2024 is not an issue if I keep the current FIA for now, SWMBO and I are discussing our wants, needs, and options moving forward...If we choose to order, you'll be the one to write and submit for a time slot, as your assistance, experience, and your guidance over the years has been invaluable and much appreciated.

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@Sargie, and their lie's the issue, our Cobras are just way too fast to just drive around out there safely, without the correct safely gear. My car has Dual rollbars, which Vin (Builder of Pacific Roadsters) said are true bars, and 5-point harness, but even with that, I would never venture to track it, without a full cage, side bars, etc. Even still @67yo, when I put a helmet on, it's to do one thing, drive as fast as the car is able to go, didn't Steve McQueen say "Racing is everything, everything else is just waiting" .. I did a lot PCA events as an instructor and used those events as Tune & Test days for the Alfa. Watching a Porsche streak by on the straightaway, and then be "piddle-slow" in the turns (Remember no passing, only on the straight), did nothing but screw up my rhythm Leaving the Alfa home and running my "Street 911S" @9/10th did nothing but waste gas, and tires I'm afraid track days are off my radar. Sorry I couldn't help much Sargie. Cheers Tom.
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Decision made, 289 roadster is now listed in the classifieds.

Thanks again for everyone’s input.

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I found the link: PhotoPost Classifieds - Superformance-MK II street-289 roadster - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds but I am really out of touch with Cobra car values. How did you determine the asking price?
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Paint depth meter readings and cold start video please.
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I'd say someone been hanging around BaT too much
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I didn't think those things even worked on fiberglass cars.
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" How did you determine the asking price? "

Doubling what you have in it leaves room for negotiating.
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