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Old 02-17-2023, 04:02 PM
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Y'know, in most forums it is I who is offering advice to car owners. This time it was me looking for advice from y'all. Interesting experience....
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Old 02-17-2023, 06:57 PM
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We are all being far too nice and accommodating to Mr. StLucie. If he were gathering information to review and base an opinion on he would gather information. This guy just picks up information offered and argues about it. We have newbies that are not as f'd up as this guy.

I think it is time to offer him an information (and dialog) embargo and simply ignore his future posts.
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Old 02-17-2023, 07:10 PM
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So if I follow this correctly now, someone is seeking financial compensation for loss of use of a car that hasn't been used in 30+ years? Interesting way to seek a payday. Loss compensation for a car that perhaps was sold out from under them without their knowledge? Absolutely. Loss of use compensation for a car that was in remote storage so long that it was apparently forgotten about to the point that the (perhaps improper) sale of said car wasn't noticed until long after the fact?? Hmmmmmm..... tough sell on that one.
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Old 02-18-2023, 06:08 AM
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I really don't get the mean girl mob mentality that sometimes crops up on forums. Not really referring to any one person in particular but more of a general group direction some of these threads tend to adopt. Most here are good guys that I genuinely like and respect for their knowledge and character (even patrickt ) But a person comes here respectfully and politely asking for information that is in abundance here and instead of happily discussing the cars we all love, it largely devolves into speculation about his motives and territorial attacks on his character. I believe in solidarity and sticking with the team and all that, but I just can't bring myself to be a part of that. I despise the term "bullying" - to me it implies weakness when used; but I can't think of a better word for what I see happening in this thread. Sorry guys - maybe it's just me - carry on.
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Old 02-18-2023, 09:58 AM
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I really don't get the mean girl mob mentality that sometimes crops up on forums. Not really referring to any one person in particular but more of a general group direction some of these threads tend to adopt. Most here are good guys that I genuinely like and respect for their knowledge and character (even patrickt ) But a person comes here respectfully and politely asking for information that is in abundance here and instead of happily discussing the cars we all love, it largely devolves into speculation about his motives and territorial attacks on his character. I believe in solidarity and sticking with the team and all that, but I just can't bring myself to be a part of that. I despise the term "bullying" - to me it implies weakness when used; but I can't think of a better word for what I see happening in this thread. Sorry guys - maybe it's just me - carry on.

Good points and well made Buzz. That not withstanding, Mr. Lucie does not behave like a professional gathering data. While some of his responses ask for fact or clarification others are simply intended to stir up argument. It is the arguing part that I think belies a different motivation.

I am suspect that what we have here is not an investigation (for whatever purpose) and instead a more sophisticated and argumentative newbie getting his jollies running us through hoops attempting to help him when all he wants is to forment the fodder of argument.

Real research will typically use written documentation that predates the research effort to validate the argument being presented. That is not the case here. Patrick made a great observation in his post #35. If I were the opposing counsel I would certainly table the argument that Patrick presented so clearly.

Go back and read some of this guy's posts and a different image begins to emerge. He is not doing research! He is simply finding a site of enthusiasts and toying with them in a sadistic sort of fashion. I really think as a group we ought to simply ignore this jerk and allow him to go away and torment some other site.
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Who cares what his involvement is beyond what he's already stated? Just because he asks a question here about a CSX car he has to submit to a friggin' colonoscopy? What are we - a Cobra forum or Nancy Drew?
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And here's me thinking you were just injecting some sound, pertinent legal perspective to the discussion. Gawd I'm slow!
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I tend to agree with Ed here, Jeff pretty much answered his question about the cars, on the first post. Yes, Buzz, we as a group here, we all earned our stripes, and because of that we tend to stick together when one or two are singled out. We even cover Patrickt ass, because he's one of us, and we all know how PatrickT can be He said he isn't being paid, or is it YET, till settlement time? Doing this out of the kindness of his heart I have a (feeling) he's back with us because "He's burnt his bridges" with others. I say let's call it quits with this guy before we have "Hurt Feeling" among our group. We're all we have Cheers Tom.
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Old 02-18-2023, 11:27 AM
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I didn't really get that impression from the OP - he seemed to remain basically polite even when pushing back - but then again I was only interested in the Cobra related part of the discussion. Patrickt's pithy synopsis drew a bit of a push back and it was somewhat punchy, but that's just part of the fun with paddy's posts and not what I was referring to. No need to cover pat's butt - he dishes it out but he can take as good as he gives.
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Old 02-18-2023, 11:56 AM
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I have a fake Ace just to be clear. Like Shelbys Cobra but the Gary Rutherford/Jeffry Davis “Classic 427” is a bigger version of the Ace.
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Old 02-18-2023, 12:17 PM
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Sorry guys - I edited my previous post with answers and it came up after your posts.
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