Real world CSX4000 comparison

[Woodz428]

In the initial thread there was a lot of discussion about the value of the Shelby name (which ,unless attached to a '60's car is worthless to me) but little actual comparison of what you get for your money. As you can tell I have an SPF,although I also looked at Contemporary ,Unique,ERA and long ago Arntz, and when I look at what is standard and what is extra, I think the new Shelby replica comes up short. The list of things that is NOT standard (or appears to not be) are side mirror,heater/defroster,Top,tonneau,side curtains and I'm not sure what else. That would to seem to start adding up. Since it isn't clear what all does come I can't be certain on other items. I know the LV car has a vinyl interior standard,but the SA car seems to claim leather.

[computerworks]

Since you already have purchased your car, what purpose does this serve?

The cars cited don't compare or compete on price vs. standards/options.

[casaleenie]

aaaaaannnnd, we're off (again)

[Super-Snake]

Ron,

How could you possibly say that the car companies cited dont compare or compete on price vs standards/options?

If they dont, then what exactly do they compete on?

-dan

[Tom T.]

Brent Fenimore of Shelby has posted on this subject. Suggest you do a search. Most if not all of the info is already available here.

TT

[Woodz428]

Basically I was trying to determine what you got for the dollars other than the name. The initial thread seemed to move off in another direction. I think it is important to know what the "basic" package consist of, since some people looking may not have that need for the "name". If they are attempting to get in the same market as some of those listed (by the way I would love a Kirkham), the only way to fully evaluate the "package" is to know what is included. The Shelby site doen't include the list, or I wouldn't have put the question up. Since there were several opinions,that I agree with, that the consumer will judge which is the best value,you need to know what you're getting. So I have "my" car, as many on this board I have many cars and buy and sell as I find ones that are attractive for what ever reason. I didn't say I wouldn't buy a Shelby, I said the name had no meaning for me if it wasn't attached to a '60's car. If it is a fair comparison cost/value wise, I might. But with the info I've seen so far that comparison isn't really possible.
I don't recall Brent stating the standard equipment in any of the posts I read,if he has,my apologies. Direct me to the thread and I, as well as others,will compare.

[PatBuckley]

I think that a subjective comparison of all the Cobras available is pretty hard to make....

What one person may find important, say for instance, a body shape that is accurate and the ability to call their car a Shelby Cobra, may not be at all important to another person who doesn't mind a car that doesn't have an accurate body and is not a Shelby Cobra.

To some people "what you can get for the dollars" is very important - and there are many Cobras that can be obtained very inexpensively.

To other people it is worth the extra dollars - even if the car does not match up feature for feature - in order to get something that is more authentic - .

[Years Ago]

WDZ

I really don't see where you are going with this. I know each and every manufacturer will give you a break down if you call and inquire. There is no reason there should be a standard listing for each manufacturer. I am in the process of helping my wife decide between a Honda Accord, a Toyota Camry, a Nissan Altima or a Mazda 6. There is not place to go to get a preprepared list that compares the four cars dollar for dollar, item by item. They are each packaged differently. I had to sit down myself, list what I wanted and then dig it out of each manufacturer's price list. It is no different when looking for a Cobra or Replica.

Perhaps you could start a nice service that would give a complete price comparison for all of the major players for a standard configuration. You would have to decide what the configuration would be. Everyone would love you for it, but I bet you won't want to go to the heavy work of doing it.

[Tom T.]

XKs Unlimited in San Luis Obispo, California, is a dealer for Shelby and sent me a flyer on the new car, including the options list, which, as I recall, is very short. I don't believe I still have that information, but that would be a source for you to contact--you need only put the company's name in a search engine and the website address should become apparent. I believe Brent Fenimore did lay things out a bit more (maybe Wayne Stoker?), but I could be wrong on that. I expect those who are actually serious about buying the car are getting the information they need from the dealers before making their decisions. If I were, I would.

TT

[mrmustang]

With all of the posturing being done by SPF owners here on a public forum, I can just imagine what is being said over on your own "closed" forums. I had peak a few months back while visiting an SPF owner......For those with SPF's, need I say any more..............


Bill S.

PS: beware what you post behind closed doors (forums), as they do have a way of finding there way out to the general public (you know exactly what and who I am speaking of)...............

[Woodz428]

I didn't think it would be such a big deal. The initial thread dealing with the release of the SA Shelby cars had a price that was in the range of some of the other replicas and there was no mention of what you got for the money other than the name. If that is it, all well and good. I can check other company's sites and get a list of what I would get for their asking price, I couldn't on the Shelby site. I do have a NV CSX brochure and the details there are different than those being stated for the SA car, I wanted to know WHAT they were.I'm not going anywhere with this, the first thread broke down into a bunch of side issues without any real discussion of the contents of the "package", that's all I was attempting to get to. I'm new enough to the site that I didn't realize that a discussion of the various possibilities couldn't be objectively discussed. My apologies.

Since it was posted that Brent had given those details, I also asked for the thread so I could read it. Then this thread would slide down the list to oblivion in the archives.

[Woodz428]

Bill,
I have NO idea what is being said in that forum. I only recently picked up the car and am not privy to the apparent "secret society" yet.

[mrmustang]

Woodz428,

Just wait..................You can't imagine....................But I will say no more, instead, I'll let you form your own opinion once you have joined them.


Bill S.







Bill S.

[Tom T.]

Look, Woodz428,

I said I could be wrong about the thread, so quit carping about it. I gave you the name of a dealer that will send you the SA CAR info. And, frankly, your attitude going in certainly invited the responses you don't find helpful. You act as if you didn't come in with an attitude, yet more than one person sure saw it, myself included. I'm no fan of Shelby's antics myself, but you've clearly now got the info you need to get more information on the SA car if you're serious about finding out.

TT

[cobish]

wdz,
i agree with your totally, i saw the csx's in june and i was not impressed, nice alloy body, but no paint, some stickers like bullet holes, but no paint. csx's are nice but they are overprices what they offer. spf offers a roller manufactured in a quality controlled enviroment and offers this at a price which is very reasonable for this type of car. the market is saturated with cobra's.
i sold my spf in less than 10 days, for a good price, because my spf was different, solid color, big block, exhaust and roll were correctly black rather than chrome as beloved by so many imitators.
my next will an spf same configuration, in az
jhr

[Woodz428]

Tom T,
I wasn't carping. You posted while I was typing mine, so I didn't see it until afterward. Check the times, I'm a fairly slow typer especially as the keys have become worn. I appreciate the info.

[Hydramada]

Dont forget our cool decoder rings too Bill!

* shakes head in disbelief *

[rem]

ill be honest with everyone here, but im VERY new here, and ive asked a few questions, and gotten some very helpful answers, but what is VERY apparent is the "mine is better than yours attitude here", and honestly, since i dont have a cobra of any kind yet, i didnt see any malice or attitude in the initial post, its as if everyone here who has whatever brand has to jump to the highest soap box and scream why theirs is better than the next one......i honestly feel that it has to do with the price that many may or may not have paid for their cars, and want the justification for such sums theyve paid......as the infamous saying goes "cant we all just get along??"....i love cobras, i dont care if they are shelbys, spf, kirkhams, ffr, lonestar, or the dozen other brands im sure ive neglected to mention (sorry)......it seems that on every post here, everyone is looking for the "motive for the post", without answering the question, if you dont have anything nice to say, step away from the keyboard and leave it alone....if you have some positive input, please type away....have you ever noticed how being somewhere in the world, behind the shield of the internet, everyone is six foot six, and pro kick boxer and willing to whip anyones ass??, yet in person, if these conversations were taking place, im sure none of the bull**** that we see here would ever take place......ok, sorry for rambling, just wishing and hoping that this could be a "nicer and friendlier place"......ill get off my soapbox now....

[computerworks]

Please take the SPF forum topic off line or out of this thread.

Thanks

Ron
Club Cobra Moderator

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by computerworks


Please take the SPF forum topic off line or out of this thread.

Thanks

Ron
Club Cobra Moderator

Damn! And I was looking forward to hearing what those mean SPF owners say about everyone else

On a side note, I think Brent did post a pretty comprehensive list of what is included in the standard roller. If you do a search, I'm sure you'll find it.