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10-14-2003, 09:44 PM
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Byots, is the 58mm weber intake a holman moody intake, with the webers straight up? Like used on the Hilborn 427 FI intakes, whiich were a 58 mm intake adapted to a fuel injection set-up?
I think it has been documented that a couple of cobra's came with the high riser heads, is that true?
What does Byots stand for Bring Your Own T S ?
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10-14-2003, 10:07 PM
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10-14-2003, 10:38 PM
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well Steve ,I would have thought it was you ......but you wouldnt congratulate yourself on your own post.......
.........would you ? 
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10-14-2003, 11:00 PM
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I am always willing to listen to someone that seems to have an inside track on Cobra knowledge.
B...I wonder how many comp and SC came with 2-4's and why most wear only 1-4?
Also...The high riser story. Did it fit with either a single 4 or weber setup under the hood? You mentioned the scoop on 3005. Was it like a Cosby hood?
Which cars run High Risers now?
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10-15-2003, 05:28 AM
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10-15-2003, 10:11 AM
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Whoa!  Great info. Neat chart.
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11-15-2003, 04:23 PM
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11-15-2003, 05:18 PM
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Maybe, Maybe-Not HR INTAKE
The PI intake I have has no throtle linkage mount in the castings and no PVC Flanges/bulges even cast into the manifold. It does have a Heat Riser though I have not specificly looked for an actual fitting/flange area.
It seems to me that a High Riser Intake ought to stick out like a sore thumb in a manicure show. I have a friend with the appropriate 2nd generation refined port heads and 1X4 HR intake. That picture you discribe should be easy to determine if its a HR with direct comparison. The additional height of the HR should be pretty obvious if carefully compared.
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11-15-2003, 05:36 PM
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BB,
The defining feature of the High riser is the very tall intake ports and steeper runner angle. they are not visually real different looking than a midriser
HR Intake 2.6x1.24
MR intake 1.94x1.24
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11-15-2003, 06:41 PM
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THe HR manifold is about 2 - 3 inches taller than nearly every other (about 4 -5 more than a LR) FE manifold. To me, it visually stands out due to the height. It was the second iteration of FE design and required the tear-drop hood scoop for clearance. Ford went to the MR design primarily to eliminate the giant hood scoop required by the HR.
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High risers are real easy to tell apart from the other manifolds due to the near 90 degree angle that is formed at the junction of the block and head.....
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11-15-2003, 08:05 PM
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11-15-2003, 08:30 PM
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Is it true that no 427's came with 2x4's? I thought only the 428's came with the 2x4's and the 427's had the single 4 bbl. / turkey pan set up.
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11-15-2003, 08:43 PM
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Terry,
Not true,.........all comp and most s/c cars came with a single four....almost all roadsters ( 427 or 428 ) came with 2x4......there dosnt seem to be any finites with Shelby as a lot of the cars were built or modified to customer request....
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Byots ,
OK lets do that......LOL....you first ...I will need to dig a few minutes.......
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Byots,
No sweat,....I had always thought the S/C cars were 2x4 configured.....and as you know ,this is at least a semi regular discussion/arguement .....after years of listening to people who should know, and reading references in Shelby related books, I have come to the conclusion that nobody REALLY knows.....the bulk of evidence seems to support at least a fair mix of the two...and as you noted also with low riser and midriser engines.....
I guess I dont want to be the latest guy to draw a line in the sand ......and from a couple of your previous posts, you seem to be well informed.....the only reference I could pick up this morning was the S/C spec. page from "Shelby Cobra, Gold Portfolio"..... "Carburetor : Holly 4v " ..
I would be interested in more firm evidence anytime ......I am mostly here to learn ,...not to preach..
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