Dissed by a fellow Cobra owner WTF

[dlang14]

I've only had my car for a little over a year, but in that time the only negative thing I've personally seen is a lot of negativity towards anyone with a chevy powered cobra. While it's not the way I wanted my car to be I see no reason to bash someone else for having a non-ford motor in their car, hey its their car! And at the end of the day, you've missed an oppertunity to hang out with a fellow car guy.

I've actually seen a lot of this type of crap at car shows. Oh that's not a real bel air its a 210 thats been modified, oh thats not an origional hemi cuda its a 318 that the guys made to look like one. So what. It's someone else's car. Unless you see a for sale car being represented by the seller as something its not, we should all take a lesson and just shuddup or be nice.

Just my opinion mind you.

Daryl

[392cobra]

Brent,
That it would.

As my Dad once told me.."Don't do anything that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the newspaper."

[relaxinrob]

Bill,
I read every post here, including all of yours. I stand by my post. You took a shot at myself and every FFR owner by naming which brand cars those jerks were driving...... I don't appreciate it. I initially chalked it up to a lapse in judgement on your part, but if you are going to continue to defend what you did, then I may have to reconsider my positon on that.

[richsd]

Originally Posted by relaxinrob

Bill,
I read every post here, including all of yours. I stand by my post. You took a shot at myself and every FFR owner by naming which brand cars those jerks were driving...... I don't appreciate it. I initially chalked it up to a lapse in judgement on your part, but if you are going to continue to defend what you did, then I may have to reconsider my positon on that.

Rob,

You need to do as your screen name says and "Relax". Give it a rest. First of all, Bill just outlined the facts of what took place. He did not pass any judgement on a particular group. If you don't like the facts that is just too bad. I don't understand how you can get all over Bill when he just passed on a story of what happened to him.

With that said, as I read Bill's first post he does not mention FFR in his story.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by relaxinrob

Bill,
I read every post here, including all of yours. I stand by my post. You took a shot at myself and every FFR owner by naming which brand cars those jerks were driving......

Rob, take a closer look at this cut of my original post, the items in RED are exact quotes from the "other brand" cobra owners in question.

Originally Posted by mrmustang

When in pulls a group of "far superior" built "other brand" cobras. Three of the drivers get out and walk over to the car I was driving and start telling me how superior their cars are to "mine" how theirs have round tube frames and modern suspensions and how their body is much better copy of the original than mine (perky trunk lid and all again their words not mine) and how they built them from scratch. Then they start picking on the car I was in, look at the lack of quality of the paint with all of the chips, and how the brakes seem to be inadequate and how the knock offs I was using just did not look right, same goes for the dash and gauge layout and the faded carpets, and what is this, a radio mounted up underneath the dash, REAL cobras never came like this.

You really want to be angry at someone, be angry at that particular group of eastern central PA residents who felt a need to stroke their own egos in such a foul manner. Do not be angry at me for quoting what they themselves stated. Perhaps I should have added all of the quotes in, but believe me, I left out some truly ignorant statements and observations from these fellow "enthusiasts" before I posted anything here.

It took all of my will power not to tell this story to the NJ breakfast bunch yesterday, or to Roger the night before while we were at his home having dinner. I did not do so because it would have wound me up and spoiled the mood. Hell I wasn't even going to post it here, because of people like yourself taking things the wrong way, but several FFR (and other) owners over on another cobra related site suggested that I post for all to see as it was worth sharing with the cobra community as a whole. One particular individual (a moderator of another cobra site you also belong to) told me I had to post it to ffcobra, (in fact he double dog dared me to do so) for which I explained that I no longer post there (I have my own reasons but it is nothing against FFR or their products), so I relented and posted it here.

So in closing, as you can now very plainly see, I was not dissing any one group, and have always told people off who were badmouthing one brand over another here and elsewhere on the web and at shows. Again you want to be angry or disgusted, your aiming it at the wrong person, as I have yet to say one really bad word about FFR or it's general ownership base anywhere in this thread.

Whether you now get it or not, I do wish you well.


Sincerely,

Bill S.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Rob, take a closer look at this cut of my original post, the items in RED are exact quotes from the "other brand" cobra owners in question.


You really want to be angry at someone, be angry at that particular group of eastern central PA residents who felt a need to stroke their own egos in such a foul manner. Do not be angry at me for quoting what they themselves stated. Perhaps I should have added all of the quotes in, but believe me, I left out some truly ignorant statements and observations from these fellow "enthusiasts" before I posted anything here.

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I don't think the issue was that they were FFR owners as much as where they were from. They couldn't have been from PA, as I don't know anybody like that from PA. From what was said, I would have to say they were "Native New Yorkers", meet those people all the time, and the next on the list are the ones from MA and CA.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Anthony

They couldn't have been from PA, as I don't know anybody like that from PA.

Sadly, all four cars had PA plates and dual inspection stickers for the easten portion of the state. On this I am 100% certain. I am also certain I had never met any of them before this encounter, and I've been to more than my fair share of cruises, shows, and racing events that I thought I knew most of the Cobra owners in our general area.

Bill S.

[Roscoe]

[relaxinrob]

Now that's funny!!

[Rick Weber]

It's too hot outside. Almost as hot as driving my coupe with the windows rolled up and the AC off.

Cool Running to all

Rick

[Excaliber]

There is a hierarchy of replica manufacturers, to deny that is to put your head in the sand. A VW is not equal to a Rolls Royce, while at the same time there are some very nice VW's out there. We (Club Cobra) do debate from time to time what constitutes a great replica vs an 'also ran'. What is 'period correct' and what is not. At times with tongue in cheek, at times with a mean spirit, at times with a serious quest for the truth and an appreciation of history.

There is a time and place for such debate. During a chance meeting making disparaging remarks about another persons car is NOT the time or the place.

I appreciate the value of an FFR, there are one of several affordable alternatives within the replica world, especially compared to a modern continuation CSX car. Considering the hierarchy of an FFR vs a real Shelby, I do find it particularly, amusingly ironic that this particular group of owner/drivers would be so rude as to diss an original.

Certainly the same could be said of ANY replica owner/driver who is so ignorant at to completly overlook the fact that Bill was driving an original. But considering the source, I gotta admit, the irony does make me chuckle.

...'perky butt' was a dead give away to anyone who frequents this forum!

[Roscoe]

It's called the steatopygic rear.

Roscoe

[mjmacqua]

Isnt there an old saying about opinions and a$$holes....

[marcocsx3121]

Not a lot has changed since the days when every Cobra on the road was "real". I can recall a particularly obnoxious 427-owning surgeon who loudly pointed out that my newly acquired 9-1/2" Halibrands had a couple of spots of casting flash on the inner surface, and therefore were not worthy of being mounted on my car. I wasn't immune from engaging in this kind of semi-good natured banter: I enjoyed heaping abuse on a certain gentleman who went on to become the exalted high poobah of a VERY well known car club because of the phony side pipes on his 289.

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by marcocsx3121

Not a lot has changed since the days when every Cobra on the road was "real". I can recall a particularly obnoxious 427-owning surgeon who loudly pointed out that my newly acquired 9-1/2" Halibrands had a couple of spots of casting flash on the inner surface, and therefore were not worthy of being mounted on my car. I wasn't immune from engaging in this kind of semi-good natured banter: I enjoyed heaping abuse on a certain gentleman who went on to become the exalted high poobah of a VERY well known car club because of the phony side pipes on his 289.

I can relate to this ... Good story's on both Ahhhh the good ol days

[EarlsflyinCobra]

Rob,

I think when Bill said he "took the high road" he referred to "AT the Scene" of the crime/insult, not here on the FORUM, and I agree with others that he indeed did so.

Bill,

Next time you come to Daytona look me up again (hopefully I won't be working as I was before) and I'll show you around, and maybe even point out a few of that crowd here in town.....thankfully they are the minority as most car enthusiasts I have met have been "GREAT" people.

[hey,littlecobra]

well whaddya know. I didn't know FFR's had round tubes, or that they drank Kool-aid or wore brown shirts????
Had to go to the FFR website to find out what kind of frames they had.
Is their butt considered 'perky'???

I guess what I'm getting at is that I'm probably the last to the party....
I didn't know WHICH manufacturer he was referring to in his initial post.
Now we all know, I guess. I figured it was some high and mighty SPF owners!!! or maybe CSX continuation.....

ya'll take everything SO SERIOUSLY!!

I'm probably a dipweed redneck mama to Uncle Bill, and he's well you know, the AUTHORITY on all things Cobra, but I didn't think his post was that bad.
go take a little drive this evening! it's summertime and the frogs are croakin' and the crickets are chirpin' and the sun is shinin'.

have fun in ALL THOSE REPLICA'S!!!
southern belle dipweed goddess

[turnpike boy]

Strictly '60's vintage Jersey speakin' here but.......

......is dipweed sumthin you smoke? And is it good?

[Roscoe]

Kill the messenger....Kill the messenger....

Pass the Kool-Aid....Hey? Where's Evan?

Roscoe

[Ron61]

Having read and then re-read this entire thread I don't see any where that Bill said anything negative about Factory 5. Those people would have been the same regardless of what brand of replica they had. And for your information, I own a Factory 5 Coupe. I have seen much nicer cars and worse ones, but I would never tell anyone their car was junk like that.

Roscoe,

Evan is probably out trying to make his car look like a Factory 5 one.

Ron