rumor control--has SAAC lost its use of Shelby name?

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Dan Stryffeler

Hope it doesn't violate Copyright law

I have no fear....the good guys operate on a handshake.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Dan Stryffeler

Thanks for the posting Ron,

Hope it doesn't violate Copyright law

Dan

I don't think he needs to worry about that, after all Ron is an official SAAC registrar and apparently is the glue behind saacforums.com.

[Excaliber]

I see the Kirkhams have been extremly quiet on this whole issue on every web site I've looked at. What a tough call for them to voice an opinion either way, sure would like to be a fly on the wall and get a glimpse of whats going on behind the scenes in Utah...

[DAVID GAGNARD]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I see the Kirkhams have been extremly quiet on this whole issue on every web site I've looked at. What a tough call for them to voice an opinion either way, sure would like to be a fly on the wall and get a glimpse of whats going on behind the scenes in Utah...

Ernie;
Since they do business with both groups, it would not be very smart for them to issue any kind of statement or stance on the matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure they have an opinion on the subject, but, wisely have not made it public.............

David

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I see the Kirkhams have been extremly quiet on this whole issue on every web site I've looked at.

That's cause they're the SMART ones .

[RodKnock]

Why would the Kirkhams care more than the other manufacturers? Would it because they're now a sponsor of SAAC and/or because their cars will be included in the new registry?

[Don]

Somewhat off topic, but I know on this Thread the post will be read and just maybe someone has , or has not, had the same experience.

Yes, I joined Team Shelby, give it a try, even though I thought it was expensive @ $49.99 compared to the AACA ( Antique Automobile Club of America ) @ $35.00 which includes an excellent magazine published 6X/year.

http://www.aaca.org/

Subscription was sent in on 11-20-07 and I had not received the packet. Followed up early the 1st week of Jan 08, received a reply that the subscription would be looked into, another follow-up via the Team Shelby web site Contact Us early last week ( I did not record the dates, did not think it would be necessary ) and still as of today no reply on the Membership status or the packet

Had the e-mails, but lost ( ? ) them when Apple Mail burped due to a power failure during the snow storm, had to re-establish all the settings.

Anyone else that joined Team Shelby have the same experience or ?

[Excaliber]

Now that you mention it, I wonder what the other manufacturers think about it as well? But Kikrham is in a unique position in that they supply frames/bodies/parts to Shelby. There is little doubt that Shelby would 'turn on them' like a rabid dog in a heartbeat if he had a different reasonable source for his own continuation cars.

[Excaliber]

Wisely indeed! Now about that fly on the wall...

I recently joined SAAC, got my membership stuff so quick the package was still smokin' when I opened it.

[What'saCobra?]

i would imagine the boys in Provo know that the last standing supplier of aly cars (of any volume) will be the best one with the lowest cost to accurately produce.

To keep the volumes, they must also sell direct, which makes sense. Selling direct allows variations from historical limitations and additional margins, up or down.

No one can easily reproduce their lowest overall costs.

1. Imagine the money and trouble they save because they ship as promised and on time.
2. Imagine making things correct the first time on an NCM, each piece perfect (within the limits of tooling choices).
3. Imagine skipping the paint hassles.
4. Imagine the polishing margins (awful job, polishing).
5. Imagine the lower marginal costs to automate the tooling for shape copying and fabrication.
6. Imagine how smart they must be to able to keep their promises.

[RodKnock]

...and they're nice people to boot.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

...and they're nice people to boot.

Now that is an understatement.


Bill S.

[Don]

Reference:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...621#post804621

The AACA ( Antique Automobile Club of America ) has approved the Shelby Cobra for their new 2008 judging class referred to as SGVC: Second Generation Collector Vehicle. Other manufacturers that assemble their versions " might " also qualify upon submitting to the AACA the required documentation. As noted, for the Shelby Cobra the article in the Shelby magazine was used as documentation, page 46 to 50.

[A-Snake]

Originally Posted by Don

Reference:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...621#post804621

The AACA ( Antique Automobile Club of America ) has approved the Shelby Cobra for their new 2008 judging class referred to as SGVC: Second Generation Collector Vehicle. Other manufacturers that assemble their versions " might " also qualify upon submitting to the AACA the required documentation. As noted, for the Shelby Cobra the article in the Shelby magazine was used as documentation, page 46 to 50.

Yes, once 25 years have passed since its construction. That would mean cars built in 1983 or earlier.
You mentioned other cars that may be included such as Glenn-Pray manufactured Auburns, Avanti II, Clenet, Shay built Model A's and Zimmer. These were sold as finish vehicles including engines and met all emission and safety standards of the times. I wonder if AACA understands that the 'new' Shelby Cobra is a component car?

The first of the 4000 series began in 1995 so the first car able for SGVC would be in 2020.

[Don]

A-Snake

Yes, the AACA is only for vehicles 25 years and older. I had the same thoughts regarding the Shelby Cobra as far as the use of components, but the AACA SGVC evaluation committee and the Vice President of Class Judging did not have any questions regarding the documentation which was no more than the article in the Shelby magazine

I believe the Shay Built Model A used recent OHV Ford 4 cylinder engines , Ford suspension parts, Ford auto transmissions i.e. the use of components. The vehicle examples cited were in the AACA Magazine article which introduced the SGVC.

Technically, the AACA is referring to the vehicles in the SGVC as a display class.

Would be interesting if another replica manufacturer that assembles the entire vehicle , not sold in parts to a builder or private party, submits their documentation.

Don

[RodKnock]

Just please don't define anything as a "Survivor." The Bloomington Gold Corvette people have trademarked that term.

So, after reading the new Snakeite Bulletin, I noticed that Kirkham is not listed as a sponsor anymore. Last issue they were listed as a sponsor. Curious. Even more curious is that in Shelby's recent response, I think if I can remember right, he basically says about SAAC, "...and NOW they're sponsored by a kit car company!" Did Kirkham stop sponsoring SAAC because of Shelby's response? Is Kirkham still a sponsor of SAAC? Will Kirkhams still be listed in the Registry? Inquiring minds want to know.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

So, after reading the new Snakeite Bulletin, I noticed that Kirkham is not listed as a sponsor anymore. Last issue they were listed as a sponsor. Curious. Even more curious is that in Shelby's recent response, I think if I can remember right, he basically says about SAAC, "...and NOW they're sponsored by a kit car company!" Did Kirkham stop sponsoring SAAC because of Shelby's response? Is Kirkham still a sponsor of SAAC? Will Kirkhams still be listed in the Registry? Inquiring minds want to know.

One more question..."Did you lose your reading glasses?"

Kirkham is still listed in the Corp Sponsor section....just like they have been.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by computerworks

Kirkham is still listed in the Corp Sponsor section....just like they have been.

Yup........

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by computerworks

One more question..."Did you lose your reading glasses?"

Kirkham is still listed in the Corp Sponsor section....just like they have been.

How did you know I wear glasses? Simply amazing. My apologies. I didn't see it and I definitely looked for it.

Excaliber, are you trying to bait Evan, again?

[xlr8or]

or a better question...

Will the new registry ever ship out? That check has been cashed for quite a while now.