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View Poll Results: In the Shelby vs SAAC dispute who are you with
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Whichever group tells me my car is REAL
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11-30-2007, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Diego,
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
We all know what the common understanding and meaning is when people refer to something as a "replica". We all know they intend to say or ask "is this a REAL one or a fake." Lets not play word games. Lets be fair here.
Thank you.
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No word games involved here Evan. When people ask if it's real they are not asking if it's a Shelby or Kirkham and wouldn't know the difference. They are asking if its an original and the correct answer for you is the same as all the other replicas.
I'm not trying to antagonize you here. I have been asked the exact question you quoted "is this a REAL one or a fake" dozens and dozens of times and what they wanted to know was if the car was an "ORIGINAL" as in built in the 60's or not.
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11-30-2007, 04:29 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Fair enough. I absolutely agree that when most people ask is it real they want to know if it is an original. But I don't agree with you that my answer should be the same as "other replicas owners" because the Shelby is not a replica of a Cobra it is a Cobra. Not a hard concept here. I'm sure replica owners would like my answer to be the same as theirs but it aint.
When I'm asked if my car is REAL, my answer and the fair answer is, "Yes it is, its a new Continuation series Cobra from Shelby American". Thats what I routinely say and never has anyone walked away with the impression its a 60 year old orignal (at least I don't see how they could). The vast reaction and response has been acceptance as a REAL Cobra with the understanding its not an original.
Thats makes it pretty clear. No misrepresentations there. You don't have an issue with this do you? If you do you need to notify SAAC, Team Shelby and Amy to correct their statements. Start posting.
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Last edited by REAL 1; 11-30-2007 at 04:35 PM..
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11-30-2007, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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This is a perfect example of why this subject will never die... because there are more than one views on it.
I do agree that there are those here that purposely get these debates going, simply for entertainment. I also agree that there are those here that truely see new Shelby Cobras as just another replica. And then there are those here who feel the cars are legit Shelby Cobras. On top of that, you've got different WAYS of promoting, or arguing, each view.
Dispite people who want to say otherwise, new Shelby Cobras, are real Shelby Cobras. You can spin the terminology anyway you'd like to benefit your side of the debate, but that will only change the outcome in your own mind.
This has nothing to do with "originals" either. We're not talking about people passing new Cobras off as originals here, we're talking about discrediting new Shelby Cobras, and their place in the registry.
The fact is, Shelby sold Cobras. Shelby stopped selling Cobras. Shelby started selling Cobras again. Plain and simple. They are new, real, Shelby Cobras. Many auto makers stop making certain models of cars, and then start making them years later. Are they fakes? Are they reproductions? No. They are new cars made in a different period in time.
In one of these debates a while back, I asked any one of the CSX "discreditors" to walk up to Carroll and tell him to his face that his new Shelby Cobras are fake and not real Cobras. I'm still waiting on that one.
And for those of you who like to tag certain people here in manners based on their views or what kind of car they own, my views are not CSX-elitist. I felt this same way when I owned my FFR, and then again when I owned my KMP. I own a CSX because I wanted a CSX. I don't think my car is better than anyone else's. I don't think I am better than anyone else because I own a CSX.
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11-30-2007, 04:50 PM
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Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Amen, brother, Amen.
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11-30-2007, 05:09 PM
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Fair enough. I absolutely agree that when most people ask is it real they want to know if it is an original.
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Good, glad you acknowledged that the intent of the question about "REAL" is whether it's an original car.
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Originally Posted by REAL1
When I'm asked if my car is REAL, my answer and the fair answer is, "Yes it is, its a new Continuation series Cobra from Shelby American"
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hmmmm.. Do you read what you type before you post it?
You can say it's not an elitist thing all you want but when you describe the "non-shelby" owners as "HAVE NOTS" you are proving thier point.
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