Shelby vs SAAC

[computerworks]

(speaking as just me )

Saying that a CSX4000 car is "a real Cobra" to an unsuspecting tourist in conversation is simply a boldface lie. We all know what they infer from that statement. Adding an asterisk-explanation about some rebirth 40 years later is just sort of back-pedaling.

Saying that "no, it is a new car, made by the same guy that made 'em in the 60's" is far more truthful.

There is a world of difference in both those statements. And the second one takes nothing away from an exceptional example of the genre.

Which one you use is dictated on just whose fantasy you are trying to fuel.

I love ya, but you can sure crap up a thread on a regular basis.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by computerworks

(speaking as just me )


I love ya, but you can sure crap up a thread on a regular basis.

I think this is the most eloquent explanation of how I feel about Evan.

Good Job, Ron!!!!

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by computerworks

(speaking as just me )

Saying that a CSX4000 car is "a real Cobra" to an unsuspecting tourist in conversation is simply a boldface lie. We all know what they infer from that statement. Adding an asterisk-explanation about some rebirth 40 years later is just sort of back-pedaling.

Saying that "no, it is a new car, made by the same guy that made 'em in the 60's" is far more truthful.

There is a world of difference in both those statements. And the second one takes nothing away from an exceptional example of the genre.

Which one you use is dictated on just whose fantasy you are trying to fuel.

Perhaps we can discuss over tea at the next SAAC convention.

[Slither]

This past July, my car, CSX4266 was INVITED to attend the First Annual William K. Vanderbilt Jr. Concours D' Elegance in Newport, Rhode Island at the Newport Mansions. The event was put on by The Preservation Society of Newport County. Dan Gurney and Sir Sterling Moss were in attendance to receive lifetime achievment awards. We accepted the invitation and made the trip knowing that we would not be in a judged class, but a class for exhibition only. We were told that this was the first time that a 4000 series Shelby Cobra had appeared at an event of this magnitude and prestige. The officials parked us right next to Paul Andrews fine collection of Shelby Cobras. Obviously, he won the Domestic Post-War class because he was the only entrant. He deserved it, too! My point is even though the 4000 series Cobras are starting to be recognized at shows like this, they still will NEVER be able to compete with the 2000 and 3000 series cars. Neither will the 7000 and 8000 series cars either.

[RACER X #99]

Originally Posted by Slither

This past July, my car, CSX4266 was INVITED to attend the First Annual William K. Vanderbilt Jr. Concours D' Elegance in Newport, Rhode Island at the Newport Mansions. The event was put on by The Preservation Society of Newport County. Dan Gurney and Sir Sterling Moss were in attendance to receive lifetime achievment awards. We accepted the invitation and made the trip knowing that we would not be in a judged class, but a class for exhibition only. We were told that this was the first time that a 4000 series Shelby Cobra had appeared at an event of this magnitude and prestige. The officials parked us right next to Paul Andrews fine collection of Shelby Cobras. Obviously, he won the Domestic Post-War class because he was the only entrant. He deserved it, too! My point is even though the 4000 series Cobras are starting to be recognized at shows like this, they still will NEVER be able to compete with the 2000 and 3000 series cars. Neither will the 7000 and 8000 series cars either.

That's real dedication, tow across the entire country for a car show. I wonder why they didn't invite Evan?

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

I wonder why they didn't invite Evan?

I was the rivets that excluded him.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

That's real dedication, tow across the entire country for a car show. I wonder why they didn't invite Evan?

What am I missing here?

Slither comes a couple of thousand miles with an invite to this show and Evan is only 6 hours or so with a similar CSX4000 and he ain't invited?????

That's just plain wrong.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by Slither

This past July, my car, CSX4266 was INVITED to attend the First Annual William K. Vanderbilt Jr. Concours D' Elegance in Newport, Rhode Island at the Newport Mansions.

Originally Posted by Slither

We were told that this was the first time that a 4000 series Shelby Cobra had appeared

[Slither]

Ron, you didn't finish the quote! ... at an event of this magnatude and prestige.

[Allan A]

Johan,

All they say at the Shelby American Collection is that if they catch a CSX 4000 car vintage racing in their group they will quit.

Not sure who you talked with, but this is slowly moving in another direction out here in the West. Vintage groups are changing, as the REAL 2000 and 3000 cars go up up up in value, the owners are starting to pull them off the track. Only the crazy rich will take them out in fear of damage. As long as the car is true to the original (brakes, motor etc) you will have a chance to race.

[Sal Gerace]

[quote=computerworks](speaking as just me )

Saying that a CSX4000 car is "a real Cobra" to an unsuspecting tourist in conversation is simply a boldface lie. We all know what they infer from that statement. Adding an asterisk-explanation about some rebirth 40 years later is just sort of back-pedaling.

Saying that "no, it is a new car, made by the same guy that made 'em in the 60's" is far more truthful.
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Ron, way too much explanation just for the "unsuspecting tourist". Getting into a lengly explanation with someone who obviously cannot tell an original from any other is just reason enough not to get too deep into an explanation. I would not mind teaching someone who is truely interested in Cobras. And can show that interest with something interesting in the conversation that tells me that they are an ehthusiast of at least Fords if nothing else. Interest in Cobras is not the motivation for the question. I think people see Cabras as kit cars and not real cars so it's a natural question for most.

[Naumoff]

Interested stranger asked "is it real"

CSX4000 owner "It is a new Shelby Cobra."


"A new one?"

"Yes, Carroll Shelby started making them again in the 90's."

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Naumoff

Interested stranger asked "is it real"

CSX4000 owner "It is a new Shelby Cobra."


"A new one?"

"Yes, Carroll Shelby started making them again in the 90's."

That's pretty much exactly what I say. It usually sparks into conversation of me explaining all about the new cars and people seem to enjoy hearing it.