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03-25-2010, 06:31 AM
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Jon Kaase Racing Boss 9 Engine
Anyone here have experience with Jon Kaase Racing and/or thoughts on this engine - 521ci version?
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com...1-engines.html
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03-25-2010, 07:32 AM
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It's my second favorite motor. First is a Cammer, Then a Boss 9. The Boss is a nasty engine with gobs of torque & horse. I haven't dealt with them myself but have only heard good things about John Kaase Racing. I'm sure others will chime in.
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03-25-2010, 07:56 AM
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Uniqueness - up there.
Power - up there.
Builder - one of the best.
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03-25-2010, 08:11 AM
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Jon is honest, fair, meticulous and-technically brilliant. He's also a straight-forward nice man. I met Jon on several occasions and watched him run. He is candid and open about his engine-building, innovations and techniques. He's in a rare class of engine builders.
You don't mention your intended usage but I doubt this will fit into any Cobra. An FE has a 10.17" deck and this is taller.
If Jon builds it, it will make all the power you can afford.
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03-25-2010, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
builders.
You don't mention your intended usage but I doubt this will fit into any Cobra. An FE has a 10.17" deck and this is taller.
If Jon builds it, it will make all the power you can afford.
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Thanks for the input. You're right. As described on the website it may be too tall to fit in my SPF. However, they can put a shorter manifold on the engine, which will allow it to fit but takes the ponies down about 30 from 760 to around 730. I guess I can live with that. (irony intended)  |
03-25-2010, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
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Thanks for the input. You're right. As described on the website it may be too tall to fit in my SPF. However, they can put a shorter manifold on the engine, which will allow it to fit but takes the ponies down about 30 from 760 to around 730. I guess I can live with that. (irony intended) |
Yeah, but you're not done with just a manifold change/chop.
Same as the Cammer thread, you'll need footbox work, possible firewall work, steering linkage change, custom headers (these are not off-the-shelf) and many other significant changes. I helped put a Cammer in an ERA so am familiar with the needed stuff.
Obviously, you want the wow factor of the Boss design. If so find a Falcon, Pinto or Galaxie to put it in-much easier and cheaper.
Keith, Barry or several others can easily build you a 750HP FE which is just a straight swap. (Assuming you upgrade all the gear behind it to live with 750.) If you're wanting the power level instead of the wow, that's the way to go.
If Bosses fit Cobras, I'd have Jon build a 494" version with Kinsler injection just like the original Can-Am cars. That would clear the hood at least. The Kinsler might cost as much as Jon's build.
Nice idea and I love it too but just not for Cobras...
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03-31-2010, 11:04 AM
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When putting my kit together the Cammer was my first choice,Boss the second,settled on the 385 and very pleased.
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03-25-2010, 08:40 AM
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Wish I could afford one!
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03-25-2010, 10:53 AM
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There is at least 1 member here who already has a Boss9 in his Cobra.
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03-25-2010, 11:08 AM
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There is at least 1 member here who already has a Boss9 in his Cobra.
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Do we know who? Would he share his experience to help the OP?
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03-25-2010, 11:16 AM
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03-25-2010, 11:39 AM
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You dug out the info so I reached out by PM to Owen to join in. Always happy to learn something new-especially about 980HP.  This could really help OP.
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03-25-2010, 12:24 PM
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There was another member here doing a boss 429 that I exchanged a few PM's with quite a while ago... Name escapes me though. 
Did anyone look at those 820 monsters? 1800+HP |
03-25-2010, 06:13 PM
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Did anyone look at those 820 monsters? 1800+HP |
IHRA Pro Stock is not suitable for a trip to the haberdasher... 
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03-25-2010, 06:27 PM
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IHRA Pro Stock is not suitable for a trip to the haberdasher... |
Chas, It works for me!
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03-26-2010, 11:15 AM
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03-26-2010, 11:35 AM
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I agree. Throw in a few bucks for a fuel pump, road race pan, swap the Meziere for a conventional water pump, and delete the carb spacer.
800 (or near it) HP for less than the price of a 600HP FE crate.
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03-26-2010, 01:02 PM
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Popular Hor Rodding Jegs Engine Master Challenge: 2009
" As the numbers were crunched for the final score of the final competitor, Kaase had retained just enough score to capture the win with a 2,632.8 to Bischoff's 2,631.4, a spread of 1.4 points. Kaase's unprecedented fourth Challenge win convincingly earns him the title of Engine Master. "
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng...nge/index.html
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03-26-2010, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
I agree. Throw in a few bucks for a fuel pump, road race pan, swap the Meziere for a conventional water pump, and delete the carb spacer.
800 (or near it) HP for less than the price of a 600HP FE crate.
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I have all those parts that I can strip off my existing engine.
In fact I would have them delete the oil pan, water pump, intake manifold, carburator, and distributor and see what that does to the price.
I think I may be seeing my Christmas present next year, and Winter project.
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