Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[Lowell W]

I don't see why it's a dumb word. It's a continuation of production. Shelby stopped production of the Cobra in 1968 and started again in 1996. What other word would you use to describe it?

"Resumption"

Or..."Resumption under fraudulent terms: ie outright lying about the origin of the chassis in an attempt to cash in on the popularity of a car he had turned his back on 30 years ago."

I'm sure there are other equally appropriate adjectives.

Lowell

[ANB]

MrMustang,

Not intended to be a "hit & run". Not able to get back to the computer until now. Many interesting views. My real reason for asking the question relates to language in a proposed bill in NJ that I have assisted on to get certain exemption status for the "replicas" and "kit cars". I noticed on a website for a new CSX Continuation Shelby Cobra that it was being sold as a 1965 Titled car. I spoke to an owner of a CSX Shelby this past week at a local cruise night that recently registered his car in NJ as a 1965 with no problem.

So, if they are "replicas" (real or not) how are some making it through the "system"? In some States, "Kit cars" and "replicas" are treated differently.

Just trying to do my part to help improve the titling and registration process in NJ.

Al

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by ANB

MrMustang,

Not intended to be a "hit & run". Not able to get back to the computer until now. Many interesting views. My real reason for asking the question relates to language in a proposed bill in NJ that I have assisted on to get certain exemption status for the "replicas" and "kit cars". I noticed on a website for a new CSX Continuation Shelby Cobra that it was being sold as a 1965 Titled car. I spoke to an owner of a CSX Shelby this past week at a local cruise night that recently registered his car in NJ as a 1965 with no problem.

So, if they are "replicas" (real or not) how are some making it through the "system"? In some States, "Kit cars" and "replicas" are treated differently.

Just trying to do my part to help improve the titling and registration process in NJ.

Al

In regards to the titling of any cobra (replica, continuation etc) that was not originally built in the 60's, NJ is culling their records as we speak and knows the difference between serial number series and what they are and when they were built. If SAI chooses to issue you a MSO that says 1965, yet all of your documentation states it was built in 2008, then the state views it as a 2008 special construction vehicle and will title it as such. Anything else is a fallacy that if you check closely, could get you in a bit of hot water for falsifying government documentation (IE: fraud or title fraud is what NJ considers it), which could lead to your car being impounded, and you heavily fined. If you bring a car in to state that is already legally titled as a 1965 "whatever". NJ takes those on face value and will issue you a title "like in kind" and it will be viewed as a 1965 "whatever"......Of course then trying to get Historic plates is where you may run in to problems....Collector registration might be the way to go in that case.......


Bill S.

PS: Spent 11 years working with the NJDMV and the NJRC (New Jersey Replica Club) on such clarifications.....With the closing down of the NJRC and several of it's more active participants no longer interacting with the NJDMV, things have gotten muddied up in the political arena.........

[ANB]

Bill,

Thanks for the feedback. There was a Bill introduced in Assembly several weeks ago and a similar one to be introduced in the Senate this coming week. Both proposed Bills were reviewed by SEMA and suggested changes were made. If you go to the ffcobra forum you can see email threads and a copy of the proposed Bill.

Hopefully there is alot of interest and support from the NJ enthusiasts whether they are already registered or not. All can support the proposed Bills by reaching out to their legislators.

Al

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by ANB

MrMustang,

Not intended to be a "hit & run". Not able to get back to the computer until now. Many interesting views. My real reason for asking the question relates to language in a proposed bill in NJ that I have assisted on to get certain exemption status for the "replicas" and "kit cars". I noticed on a website for a new CSX Continuation Shelby Cobra that it was being sold as a 1965 Titled car. I spoke to an owner of a CSX Shelby this past week at a local cruise night that recently registered his car in NJ as a 1965 with no problem.

So, if they are "replicas" (real or not) how are some making it through the "system"? In some States, "Kit cars" and "replicas" are treated differently.

Just trying to do my part to help improve the titling and registration process in NJ.

Al

We have a Registration Forum as well as a search function. If you need help in understanding how to find or use them, just let us know.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Lowell W

"Resumption"

Or..."Resumption under fraudulent terms: ie outright lying about the origin of the chassis in an attempt to cash in on the popularity of a car he had turned his back on 30 years ago."

I'm sure there are other equally appropriate adjectives.

Lowell

What you are talking about, are different cars. Those are "completion" cars. Cars claimed to have been slated for build in the 60s, and finished in the early 90s using original parts.

It would have all been legit if Shelby hadn't made the whole thing up, and created those cars by contracting McCluskey to built them from sctratch.