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06-03-2008, 11:03 PM
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and so it goes...
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06-04-2008, 12:16 AM
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Have we heard this before?
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06-04-2008, 05:43 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by HI Cobra
Have we heard this before?
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Original, real, replica, continuation, clone, I do not believe this subject has ever been discussed here before. Must be your imagination 
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06-04-2008, 07:01 AM
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Yeah, and I want to know more about this "In The Sack" registry. Maybe I can find out what some of my old girlfriends are up to. 
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06-04-2008, 07:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Nedsel
Yeah, and I want to know more about this "In The Sack" registry. Maybe I can find out what some of my old girlfriends are up to. |
Ned,
Are you sure you want to know?
You probably remember them all like this:
When in reality they now look like this
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06-04-2008, 01:16 PM
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I think it's just a matter of belief and perception, although it generates arguments, and no one will win.
I'm not taking one side or the other, but I've been a SAAC member for a very long time, and I'm very sure SAAC knows virtually everything that's Shelby and/or Cobra, but they're just humans. Not everyone takes what they say as gospel and definitions can change with time.
Evan knows his car is a real Cobra. Others believe it's a Cobra just like any of the others.
Personally, when I see a CSX, Kirkham, FFR, BDR, SPF, Unique, or whatever, I say to anyone that's near me "Hey, there goes a Cobra."
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06-04-2008, 01:38 PM
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Sal,
When you state " My car is a replica of an original car. AND, it's a real Shelby Cobra", not only do I agree with this 100%, but can honestly say you are one of a select few CSX4000 series owners who gets it.
Bill S.
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06-04-2008, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
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No, give in to temptation... It feels so good. Go on, give in, you'll be glad you did. 
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06-04-2008, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Sal,
When you state "My car is a replica of an original car. AND, it's a real Shelby Cobra", not only do I agree with this 100%, but can honestly say you are one of a select few CSX4000 series owners who gets it.
Bill S.
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I am glad to hear that, because I really don't try to come off as an ass about it. I know what my car is, and that's important to ME. I like my car for what it is, and that's why I own it. I respect other people for the cars they own, and I do NOT feel that I am better than anyone, or that my car is better than anyone else's, just because it's a CSX. It's the car I wanted and I just would like people to show the same respect that I do towards them. I have owned both an FFR and a Kirkham, which is about as extreme to both ends of the replica market as you can get. I worked my way to the CSX because it's the car I really wanted. Along the way, I learned a lot from both companies and have a great respect for all brands and owners.
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06-04-2008, 01:55 PM
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It's nice to know so many people DO get it. There will always be those who do not.
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06-04-2008, 02:02 PM
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Yup. I agree with Sal. The Continuations by definition are replicas of the original series. Never disputed that fact, BUT as Sal pointed out when asked if a Continuation series is a "replica" in the normal usuage and understanding of the word IT IS NOT SINCE IT IS NOT A REPLICA OF A COBRA BECAUSE...AND READ SLOOOWLLLY HERE...IT IS A COBRA!
Some here just read and see what they want to see.
Saltytri: You are clearly lost and didn't follow what was being said and intended in the retorical argument between Ned and myself. Its also clear you don't own a Shelby. Your position is typical and unfortunately predictable for many non Shelby owners.
Oh, I get it alright. More then you think. Moreover, its right there in black and white on the SAAC site.
As far as respect goes, I have no respect for others here who put down what I own and state that I misrepresent what I own because they don't agree the fact the Continuation series is a real Cobra not a "look a like" which they in fact own. You want respect. Give respect. Otherwise Ki$$ My A$$.
I prefer to call a spade a spade and have no interest in false friendships built on the requirement I knock my own car.
If I come off as an a$$.. oh, well, I don't see the Continuation series detractors concerned about the fact that I and other CSX owners see them as coming off as a$$e$...so ask me if a care.
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06-04-2008, 02:40 PM
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Saltytri: You are clearly lost and didn't follow what was being said and intended in the retorical argument between Ned and myself. Its also clear you don't own a Shelby. Your position is typical and unfortunately predictable for many non Shelby owners. |
"Not all who wander are lost." 
And heaven forbid that I would own a latter day Shelby. I'd much rather own a Latter Day Kirkham (with all due apologies to my good friend, David K.)
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06-04-2008, 03:56 PM
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"Not all who wander are lost."
And heaven forbid that I would own a latter day Shelby. I'd much rather own a Latter Day Kirkham (with all due apologies to my good friend, David K.) |
NO apologies needed! I'd hate to see you on the other side of the table!
David
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06-04-2008, 02:41 PM
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You are clearly lost and didn't follow what was being said and intended in the retorical argument between Ned and myself.
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Maybe I'm wrong but this sure sounds like you are talking to yourself. 
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06-04-2008, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
I am glad to hear that, because I really don't try to come off as an ass about it. I know what my car is, and that's important to ME. I like my car for what it is, and that's why I own it. I respect other people for the cars they own, and I do NOT feel that I am better than anyone, or that my car is better than anyone else's, just because it's a CSX. It's the car I wanted and I just would like people to show the same respect that I do towards them. I have owned both an FFR and a Kirkham, which is about as extreme to both ends of the replica market as you can get. I worked my way to the CSX because it's the car I really wanted. Along the way, I learned a lot from both companies and have a great respect for all brands and owners.
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Sal,
Spoken like a true car enthusiast and not someone out to puff up his ego. I applaud your candor and your honesty.
Bill S.
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06-04-2008, 02:25 PM
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Seeing the signs of supernova thread forming.
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06-04-2008, 03:49 PM
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(I could have swore I have written this before)
When people ask "Is it Real?", they are asking if it is an original car, built in the '60s, and currently worth more than $600,000. To answer THAT question truthfully, the answer MUST be "No...recently made by Shelby...genuine...Cobra."
THAT is the question they are asking. They are NOT asking if the Cobra was built by Shelby, and if those Cobras were indeed built by Shelby, they are indeed genuine Shelbys.
NO ONE here is disparaging CSX 4xxx, 7xxx, or 8xxx Cobras. They are fine automobiles.
Okay, Real1, let's say you witnessed a hit-and-run accident, and the perpetrator drove off in a Cobra. Would you tell the police "Uh, um, I dont know WHAT kind of car in was. I have a genuine Cobra, but I cant prove that the Cobra that drove off was a genuine Cobra, so I am not smart enough to give you information to catch the perp." ?
I hope you get it now.
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06-04-2008, 05:57 PM
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Mine's an AC replica, but a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet. Evan it really is simple your making it way to complex, just go with whats visceral, leave the 'real' world behind.
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06-04-2008, 06:06 PM
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Is this thread an original thread?
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06-04-2008, 06:11 PM
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Is this thread an original thread?
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I believe the word to use to describe this thread would be a "continuation" thread
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