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06-06-2008, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CSX 4039
Yes, but, the government also classifies a '63 String Ray and a '63 Corvair in the same broad category.
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 Please enlighten us. You're saying an original '64 Cobra or an original '63 Corvette Grand Sport is treated the same as a component car produced in 2008?
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06-06-2008, 09:03 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
 Please enlighten us. You're saying an original '64 Cobra or an original '63 Corvette Grand Sport is treated the same as a component car produced in 2008?
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I'm a little lost on the registration thing too. Regardless of how stupid the DMV is, a Continuation CSX is NOT sold as a full car, and in that respect cannot be compared to any full car no matter what it was or when it was made.
The titling process will AWALYS be a gray area of debate, because all the states handle it differently. Some states will use the car's issued VIN, title it as a 1965 cobra, and send you on your way. Other states will issue you their own VIN, put a big ugly yellow VIN sticker on the car, title it as a 2008, and make you put bumpers, DOT lights, and all the other crap on before they let you title the car.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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06-06-2008, 01:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4039 427 FE 1966- SOLD
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
 Please enlighten us. You're saying an original '64 Cobra or an original '63 Corvette Grand Sport is treated the same as a component car produced in 2008?
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Here, you can get plates that say "Historic Vehicle". Same for both cars. That way, no smog requirement....
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06-06-2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CSX 4039
Here, you can get plates that say "Historic Vehicle". Same for both cars. That way, no smog requirement....
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You are in Texas correct?
According to Texas DMV there are two different plates for older cars. Antique or Classic.
" Antique Plates
The Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) has two types of plates available specifically for older vehicles.
Antique plates are for vehicles at least 25 years old that are used strictly for antique exhibitions, parades, and related activities. (Occasional trips to the repair shop are permitted.)
Only one antique plate per vehicle is issued. To apply for the plate, complete the antique application form and bring it or mail it to your local county tax office. The plate cannot be personalized.
The plate is valid in five-year increments. For vehicles built before 1921, the yearly fee is $8, while it's $10 per year for vehicles manufactured after that. Local additional fees may apply. Find full information here.
Classic plates are also for vehicles that are at least 25 years old. However, vehicles with these plates may be used for routine transportation.
Complete the classic plate form to apply for the plates, and bring it or mail it to your local county tax office.
The plates carry an annual fee of $15, and may be personalized for an extra $40. However, local additional fees may apply."
Classic plates would apply for cars 25 years + old. This link takes you to the application form that is completed and signed attesting to the vehicle being 25 years old.
http://http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tx...vletConfig.xml
It's not nice to fool mother nature or the DMV. 
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06-06-2008, 02:45 PM
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A-Snake, you are correct the Classic plates are the ones he was referring to here in TX, they say "Historic Vehicle" on them. The bad thing is you can get them for anything that is 25 years or older A coworker saw a rusted out 80 chevy pickup with them on the other day. It is much cheaper to register them this way, than the normal registration fee, so people are figuring out that it is a way to save money on their POS.
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06-06-2008, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Wicked
A-Snake, you are correct the Classic plates are the ones he was referring to here in TX, they say "Historic Vehicle" on them. The bad thing is you can get them for anything that is 25 years or older A coworker saw a rusted out 80 chevy pickup with them on the other day. It is much cheaper to register them this way, than the normal registration fee, so people are figuring out that it is a way to save money on their POS.
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So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.
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06-06-2008, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.
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Arntz Butler? 
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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06-06-2008, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Snake
So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.
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mines a 1979 kellison was from jersey and had qq plates(historic car) on it
transfering from nj to pa a freakin nightmare had to play dirty to get title
even transfered
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06-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Snake
So what component car manufacturer, still in business, has a car that is 25 or more years old? Kirkham, Shelby, ERA etc are 'new' special construction vehicles even if they simulate a car from the '60's.
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All of the more recent ones I know have the regular plates on them. I know it used to be different, and I think some people have them titled as a 65, but I do not know the specifics or if they are actually legally done. I was just trying to confirm that the Historic Vehicle and the Classic Vehicle plates are one in the same.
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06-06-2008, 04:18 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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Originally Posted by Joe Wicked
A-Snake, you are correct the Classic plates are the ones he was referring to here in TX, they say "Historic Vehicle" on them. The bad thing is you can get them for anything that is 25 years or older A coworker saw a rusted out 80 chevy pickup with them on the other day. It is much cheaper to register them this way, than the normal registration fee, so people are figuring out that it is a way to save money on their POS.
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In PA, you need to send a picture of the car, I guess to prevent a situation like this.
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06-06-2008, 04:31 PM
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You can get historic vehicle tags in CA as well, however there is a stipulation that cars wearing them are not to be driven for typical errands, etc. In other words, if you are stopped when driving your whatever, you are supposed to be on your way to a show, a parade, or some other "event" in your 25-year-old or older automobile. Best not to get stopped in traffic on the way to work some weekday morning.
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06-06-2008, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedsel
You can get historic vehicle tags in CA as well, however there is a stipulation that cars wearing them are not to be driven for typical errands, etc. In other words, if you are stopped when driving your whatever, you are supposed to be on your way to a show, a parade, or some other "event" in your 25-year-old or older automobile. Best not to get stopped in traffic on the way to work some weekday morning.
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Those would be the Antique Vehicle plates. 25 years and older, 5 year registration that A-Snake posted. Even though the age is the same, the Historic Vehicle registration is every year and does not have the same restrictions.
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06-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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2 cents worth
I drive a CR II. I've waited a long time to get anything that even looks like a Cobra  . I can justify almost anything that I have done in my life but at the end of the day you make your decision and try to enjoy your choice. This debate can go on ad nauseum and I'll still be happy with the choice I made.
If you have deep enough pockets go out and buy "THE REAL THING" if you don't, then buy something that makes you happy  .
The most important thing is to remember to drive it when you can.
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