Looking For An Alloy CSX4000? Here Ya Go

[henryr]

pm sent mad maxx

[Tony Ripepi]

Hi Guys,

CSX4208 for sale here on Club Cobra $135K.

Also Aluminum body posted May 2009, I do not know if it has sold.

Not affiliated in any way, I agree with Rodknock that this one will sell well above what any of the Fibreglass cars have sold for. Two points off the curve were the CSX fibreglass cars sold by Becker in the low $60k's in Monterey at no reserve auctions. He did it to get the press/attention/advertising value, at least that is what he claimed.

Tony R.

[madmaxx]

Once again I am not a professional car appraisel or certified mechanic. My opinion is for entertainment purposes only. I am not bidding on this car. I looked at the car yesterday and for all I know it is fully polished today and in pristine condition.

[RodKnock]

FE's have a reputation for leaking, so that, in it of itself, shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone out there. Is the block an aluminum CSX block? If so, the early CSX blocks did have problems, which by the drilling of a hole, can be repaired.

First hand knowledge is always better than armchair quarterbacking from CA. That's for sure. Of course, maybe you're "sandbagging" everyone that you can buy it cheaper. (just kidding around).

[madmaxx]

It did not appear to be an aluminium block, once again I am not a professional car person or mechanic. I am not buying or bidding on the car, I made an offer yesterday and it was rejected. I know the cash in my bank account will not loose value except for inflation, LOL!!! I am cheap and only buy things I can make money on so my opinion probably is out of line on value.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

FE's have a reputation for leaking, so that, in it of itself, shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone out there. Is the block an aluminum CSX block? If so, the early CSX blocks did have problems, which by the drilling of a hole, can be repaired.

First hand knowledge is always better than armchair quarterbacking from CA. That's for sure. Of course, maybe you're "sandbagging" everyone that you can buy it cheaper. (just kidding around).

[Excaliber]

They don't have to leak, FE's, but I concur that many do. Something that still leaves me baffled, it ISN'T a given. Mine doesn't leak, and I'm not some hot shot mechanic OR someone who got lucky. I just took extaordinary care with all the sealing surfaces and took nothing for granted. Did extensive research right here on Club Cobra to be aware of what to look for.

Recently attended a car show, newly converted GT-500 Eleanor fastback there. Brand new Genesis block, alloy heads, polished everything, dual fours, awesome! $30,000 for the motor alone. Couldn't drive it, trailored in, bottom of the bell housing covered in oil... WHAT is UP with THAT???? 30K and it leaks oil? Unacceptable, but yeah, all to dang common.

[madmaxx]

Using 57K (chassis) +10K (brushed finish) + 2K (gas tank) + .5K (tires) + 15.4K (SA 427 side oiler) + $3.5K trans and misc = $88.4K

So for a new build less labor, owner installed himself he appears to have about $88.4K into car unless I am missing something. Wow!!! Once you put pen and paper to it RodKnock is right.

It just does not look like a $90K car. I still would not go more than $65K but it is definelty worth more than that, probably $75K?. From what I saw some sell for on cobra country individuals must loose upwards of $25K to 35K when they sell these things.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

From what I saw some sell for on cobra country individuals must loose upwards of $25K to 35K when they sell these things.

More or less...yes. Of course, there are many variables with parts, labor and the seller's situation. Obviously, buying a used car is almost always cheaper than new.

[RodKnock]

Also, those additional parts like the oil puke tank, coolant recovery, and other Kirkham options (powdercoated bulkhead, wheelwell foam, Halon system, adjustable seat tracks, etc.) probably add another 2-3 thousand. Further, the dual quad setup is probably worth a couple grand, if done right.

I'm curious what block was used for the build. Certainly not a very good ad or detailing the car for sale.

[madmaxx]

He indicated a 1974 or 1972, didnt sound for sure or at least that is what i thought he said. The car was not detailed to sale in my opinion. But hat soff to kirkham they make a beautiful body.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Also, those additional parts like the oil puke tank, coolant recovery, and other Kirkham options (powdercoated bulkhead, wheelwell foam, Halon system, adjustable seat tracks, etc.) probably add another 2-3 thousand. Further, the dual quad setup is probably worth a couple grand, if done right.

I'm curious what block was used for the build. Certainly not a very good ad or detailing the car for sale.

[henryr]

75k bid by a ebayer with zero feedback. watch for a relist

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by henryr

75k bid by a ebayer with zero feedback. watch for a relist

I think you're 100% right.

I asked the seller some questions and the response gave me the feeling that there would be some shill bidding. It looks like one or two shill bidders to me, but you never know. The seller had a low reserve that was met quickly and then at about $56,000, with only less than a day to go, he decided he didn't want to sell it "too cheap."

[madmaxx]

Henry and Rodnock caught on the quickest. You both nailed it, congratulations you now know the minimium it will take. I think that is squirley if the reserve is met then it should sale to the highest bidder.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I think you're 100% right.

I asked the seller some questions and the response gave me the feeling that there would be some shill bidding. It looks like one or two shill bidders to me, but you never know. The seller had a low reserve that was met quickly and then at about $56,000, with only less than a day to go, he decided he didn't want to sell it "too cheap."

[RodKnock]

Steering back to the Kirkham for a moment, if you look closely in one of the pics, as I finally did, which shows the passenger side of the car, you'll see a reasonably-sized oil leak sitting on the ground where parked.

FWIW, the seller said his Southern Automotive receipt shows a 1968 standard bore side oiler block.

I don't think it will be going any higher than $75K, so the "winning bidder" seems to have gotten a decent deal for a Kirkham. For my $75K, I'd take Sal's CSX4241.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

For my $75K, I'd take Sal's CSX4241.

Is that an offer?

Seriously, thanks for the compliment.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Is that an offer?

Seriously, thanks for the compliment.

Trust me, I've thought about it on more than one occasion.

[madmaxx]

I doubt that car sold to anyone. That is just my take. He was looking for $75K and would not sell for less. I just didnt see it as investment vehicle for anything over $65K. Once again only my opinion.

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Steering back to the Kirkham for a moment, if you look closely in one of the pics, as I finally did, which shows the passenger side of the car, you'll see a reasonably-sized oil leak sitting on the ground where parked.

FWIW, the seller said his Southern Automotive receipt shows a 1968 standard bore side oiler block.

I don't think it will be going any higher than $75K, so the "winning bidder" seems to have gotten a decent deal for a Kirkham. For my $75K, I'd take Sal's CSX4241.

[Wahoo65]

Well, I see there is a lot of discussion about my car. Although I really don't care one way or the other if you bid or not, I'll clear up a few things for everyone's benefit. The car only has the mileage shown (517). Yes, the car is dirty, but it's really just dust. Yes, I've only recently purchased a CalCarCover (still in box). I have been too busy with other projects, a 3-year old and a 6-month old. I did not spend anytime cleaning it up as I have had pneumonia for the past 3 months and am still not completely better. Yet, there are no scratches, no dents ...as the gentlemen that clearly wasted an hour an a half of my time might try to lead you to believe. The tires are what came with the car four years ago. My particular SA build has been rock solid other than it sucked a intake gasket and has had minor oil leaks ever since. The photos were taken in the street in front of my house and there was not a big oil stain. My SA has never overheated even in the middle of summer. I attribute that to the Swain Tech header coating. If you happen to have any knowledge of Swain coatings, you'll know it only comes in white. Really didn't think that white would be a good look, so I sprayed painted them high heat black paint as recommended by Swain. As for shill bidding allegations, not true. I'm guessing that you think the 0 transaction bidders are shill. In fact one is an Italian and the high bidder (as of the last time I looked) is legit. I went so far as to attain his contact info this morning from eBay and have had phone communications. My wife (an attorney for over 10 years) has told me that if anyone says anything that is truly untrue, that could be defamation or tortious interference, so please think twice before attacking me or the car any further. Sorry this is so long winded and if anyone has any questions, feel free to contact me at 713-859-7889. Thanks for the heads up on this thread, flytomaui.

Regards,
Wahoo65/defusa

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Wahoo65

My wife (an attorney for over 10 years) has told me that if anyone says anything that is truly untrue, that could be defamation or tortious interference, so please think twice before attacking me or the car any further.

Well, if we could find a decent attorney on this forum we'd know whether that was true or not.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Well, if we could find a decent attorney on this forum we'd know whether that was true or not.

But would that mean it was "truly untrue", or just untrue?