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09-28-2009, 07:12 AM
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As far as this Kirkham, I feel I could build one new like this one, not like I would build it, for $75K. Note this is my opinion, no one else, I am not a proclamined cobra expert. Compared to my SPF this car was RAW. I stick with my original price point when I originally posted, this car is worth $64 to $66K in my opinion if there are no hidden engine gremlins etc.
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Originally Posted by mtml427
Interesting comments. Last year I spoke with a fellow from Texas with a Kirkham built by Kirkham for 75k. It seems a Shelby may not be completely out-of-line at 90 something. For this car to get much past the 90s would be really something.
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09-28-2009, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by madmaxx
As far as this Kirkham, I feel I could build one new like this one, not like I would build it, for $75K. Note this is my opinion, no one else, I am not a proclamined cobra expert. Compared to my SPF this car was RAW.
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You probably could, and that's an interesting observation on Cobra value. I think RodKnock, bless him, touched on it recently and I was going to follow up on the thought but never did. That thought was expressed in a thread were he was talking about his unwillingness to trade his Kirkham for a car that was clearly worth more than his. I, too, would not trade my ERA for RodKnock's Kirkham even though his car is clearly worth more than mine... to almost anyone in the world but me, that is. When you have gone to the trouble of getting your car "just right" (or mostly so) for you, that tends to be worth quite the premium (but only to you).
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09-28-2009, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by patrickt
You probably could, and that's an interesting observation on Cobra value. I think RodKnock, bless him, touched on it recently and I was going to follow up on the thought but never did. That thought was expressed in a thread were he was talking about his unwillingness to trade his Kirkham for a car that was clearly worth more than his. I, too, would not trade my ERA for RodKnock's Kirkham even though his car is clearly worth more than mine... to almost anyone in the world but me, that is. When you have gone to the trouble of getting your car "just right" (or mostly so) for you, that tends to be worth quite the premium (but only to you).
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I could have used your blessings this past Saturday when I ran out of gas in the Kirkham, meeting the guys at Alices.  Darn that gas guage.
Also, clearly I'm not dumb, I would trade my car for a BRAND NEW FERRARI or even a 2006 FORD GT.
But seriously, Patrick is correct, but fortunately, at least at the moment, neither one of us needs the cash. Knock on wood.
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09-28-2009, 10:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by madmaxx
As far as this Kirkham, I feel I could build one new like this one, not like I would build it, for $75K. Note this is my opinion, no one else, I am not a proclamined cobra expert. Compared to my SPF this car was RAW. I stick with my original price point when I originally posted, this car is worth $64 to $66K in my opinion if there are no hidden engine gremlins etc.
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Mad, I respect your opinion and everyone will have their own on value, but, and I'm sure you're aware of this, a Kirkham roller is $57K plus the brushed finish, center stripes and pit stripes add about $10K. Billboards +1K, 42-gallon gas tank +$2K. There are some miscellaneous options installed on that Kirkham, but don't add anything significant. So, that car as a roller sans engine and tranny is $70K. Thus, for $70, you get the Kee toploader, aluminum head dual quad FE S/O engine, miscellaneous options and the fitting of the headers for free.
It may sell for $65K, but I will tell you that for that price range, I just may have to buy it. 
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09-28-2009, 03:14 PM
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Good info!! Billboards have slight cracking take off $1,000, one side pipe has small dent and side pipe paint is not continuous, I guess the new owner can get another can of oven paint. Body is so filthy I cannot tell how many scratches are actually there, maybe none, but what I dont know I assume. Engine leaking oil and if it only has 500 miles it was the hardest 500 miles but possilbe and that is what the odometer said. I would not give 1 penny over $65K. I would rather spend $80K and know exactly what I have with a documented engine build. This engine may have a documented build but I never saw any paperwork and it was not offered. The block was supplied by SA and the owner supplied heads and bolts? The only thing that impressed me was the aluminium body, (my wife thought it was scratched, I told her that is a brushed finish LOL) I loved and was memorized by the body and the craftsmanship other than that the car was not a standout to me so the only thing that can make it a standout is a low price. The heads were painted blue, I guess they were aluminium. You forgot to mention in your price you are getting a NEW car, this was a 2005 build. Buddy noticed slight rust marks on the windsheild upright. Like I said for mid 60's you cant go wrong above that is diminishing value. Sheet if you cannot clean a car up to show how much do you want sell or just passify somone else wanting you to sell??
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Mad, I respect your opinion and everyone will have their own on value, but, and I'm sure you're aware of this, a Kirkham roller is $57K plus the brushed finish, center stripes and pit stripes add about $10K. Billboards +1K, 42-gallon gas tank +$2K. There are some miscellaneous options installed on that Kirkham, but don't add anything significant. So, that car as a roller sans engine and tranny is $70K. Thus, for $70, you get the Kee toploader, aluminum head dual quad FE S/O engine, miscellaneous options and the fitting of the headers for free.
It may sell for $65K, but I will tell you that for that price range, I just may have to buy it. 
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