Nascar Fan? - Page 2

RACER X #99 · #21 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 03:15 PM

Ike, That's the great part about F1 all you have to do is watch qualifing and you don't have to waste an afternoon watching the pole sitter a 1/2 lap ahead of everybody else after about 10 laps. I think the pole sitter wins about 90% of all F1 Races.

A real time saver.

Cranky

bmalone · #22 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 03:23 PM

I knew I'd get some help sooner or later.

Bill

mustang man · #23 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 03:30 PM

Want instant gratification, try NHRA drag racing.

4.5 seconds and it's all over.

Hell, sex lasts longer than that!!!!

ERA535 · #24 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 03:43 PM

Cranky - Ron Dennis from McLaren recently addressed the issue of "Boring" F1 races. He said (kinda) " We spend a whole day determining who the fastest guy is, then we start him up front. Why is everyone surprised?"

Mustang Man - sex for you lasts longer than 4.5 seconds? I am impressed.

Menace - the surprising part is you have apparently actually watched replays of roundy round races. I can usually figure out who won after only watching once. The replays are for people from W. Virginia.

Ikestaa - so you don't think that close racing is competitive racing? How about when they are spread out? Is that competitive to you?

bmalone · #25 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 03:51 PM

I thought the goal of racing was to determine who is the best driver? To me, it is not competitive when one or more teams have developed a superior car to the others for whatever reason. That's one reason professional ball sperts have become hard to watch--the team with the biggest payroll wins, e.g. NY Yankees et al.

Bill

ERA535 · #26 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:04 PM

I suppose it can mean what ever you want it to...

I have always had the OPINION that it was a team thing...the best driver in the best car with the best crew...

Sometimes (too rarely) one does get to see an outstanding driver kick some bvtt in a car that shouldn't win - but that never seems to happen often enough for me!

mustang man · #27 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:13 PM

ERA 535

5.136 seconds, last time I tried it with a stop watch!!!

RACER X #99 · #28 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:18 PM

Tim,
Do you have one of those Christmas trees that tells you when to start.

RD

mustang man · #29 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:21 PM

Yeah, something like that.

All I know is that when my wife flashes the red bulb, then I went too early!!

bmalone · #30 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:22 PM

You're right, that's when it's good. I really enjoy seeing someone unheralded going in and kicking a$$. Doesn't happen very often in NASCAR or other forms of racing.

Best analogy I can think of is privateers campaigning against contracted professionals. I was a former licensed pro motocrosser but never made it to the top and multi-million dollar contracts. THe factory guys all had very trick, exotic bikes that were just better than what any amateur could afford. But there were those days on certain tracks that us privateers got it done.

Bill

ERA535 · #31 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 04:24 PM

Tim,

When I was younger and motel rooms all had adult movies I could time my "event" so that as the light on the box on the TV would start to blink - meaning that I was about to be charged because the preview period was coming to an end- I would "finish".

I got so good at this that pretty soon any kind of flashing light was enough to insure a good time.

The problems started when I couldn't figure out how to program my VCR and it kept flashing "12:00".

Menace · #32 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 06:39 PM

ERA535 "Menace - the surprising part is you have apparently actually watched replays of roundy round races. I can usually figure out who won after only watching once. The replays are for people from W. Virginia."

Good one :Im just mouthing off and trying to get an honorary "Gashole" membership you guys need a Token FFR guy dont you? I am frustrated with speedvision though .I have cable in my shop and used to let speedvision run all day but I just cant take 8 hours of nascar reruns a day... like they have now.Menace

ERA535 · #33 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 06:47 PM

Menace- I think the Dean of Admissions will agree that we do need a token FFR in the gang.

Those darned FFR's are just too light! They need to weigh about 400 more pounds so that it will be a fair fight on the track.

Regarding Speedvision becoming the NASCAR Channel....I remember people saying that and thought it was just hysteria, but guess what? It is. I am getting sick of all the NASCAR coverage fast.

good2go · #34 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 09:11 PM

Yes I am a devoted NASCAR fan. My wife and I have had an opportunity to be in the Cup hot pits a couple of times and in pits with a Winston West car many times. I actually raced against one of the current Cup drivers 4 years ago in a Saturday night class at local tracks. He always won!!

If you understand the background of the sport, the lack of technology (kind like cobra kits or real ones), and the closeness of the competition then you might really enjoy the sport.

My opinion of F-1 is "No passing allowed!"

I have traveled with an IRL team and still prefer full bodied cars to open wheelers, except for sprints which again lack technology but make it up in brute hp and driver's cahones!!(kind of like you know whats)

Just my opinion-of course I could be wong!

Dave

Ikestaa · #35 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 09:28 PM

It's all a matter of tastes. Me personally, I am more fascinated by the design of the car than who drives it, most of the time. This is why I am looking at automotive engineering. For me, there is so much more to racing than turning left.

jeff neely · #36 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 09:43 PM

I am a fan. I watch ever race. Go Bill Elliot. If he is out of the racei turn it off.

avalanche325 · #37 (**permalink**) 02-14-2002, 09:48 PM

YES. Definately a NASCAR fan. The fact that NASCAR tries to keep the cars even (competative) is what makes it true racing. It is up to the team to set the car up properly, the pit crew to get the car serviced fast, and the driver to have superior driving skills.

I am not impressed with F1 which unfortunatly (IMO) has turned into "who can AFFORD to win". Cars at high speed, 30 seconds apart is a freeway, not racing. (I do appriciate the technology - and the sleep I can get watching)

British Touring Car and Australian Super Cars are also fun to watch. Door to door.

Homewrecker · #38 (**permalink**) 02-15-2002, 04:21 AM

I have been a fan since the old days. I loved to watch Cale roughin' people up. I have been to Bristol twice, Charlotte once, Rockingham once, Michigan a bunch. I am taking this year off to save money for my engine.

Trans-Am Jim · #39 (**permalink**) 02-15-2002, 06:36 AM

I'm sort of divided - I like Bristol, Martinsville, and Dover. Somewhat less Daytona & 'Dega (just waitin for the big wreck to happen). And the road courses. The rest, mostly 1 mile ovals, are just plain boring IMHO. The cars are technological dinosaurs, which kinda makes 'em appealing in the details. There are differences, but they're subtle.

Wanna see some fender rubbin', recognizable body styles, American V8s and some lead changes, all run on some of this country's best road and street courses? You like drivers with personality, not afraid to mince their words for the camera?
Watch a Trans-Am race - all races televised either live or tape-delayed on Speedchannel and CBS this season. You might become a fan.

John McMahon · #40 (**permalink**) 02-15-2002, 07:42 AM

...I agree!!! A Trans Am race is the way to go! Get some of these guys like Paul Gennalozzi and Boris Said rubbing up agin one other, ain't nothing like it.

Its kind of like the XFL of auto racing.

Plus the variety of tracks they run keeps you interested from week to week. We even have a couple of 'local' boys running as newbies, Paul Fix and Rich LaBarbera, I bought my Mustang racer from Rich. Nice guys, but they don't have the deep pockets that it now takes to run Trans Am. Hard to keep up with Mr. Money Bags, Gennalozzi.

While I'm still a Nascar fan, I'd watch Trans Am over Nascar any day of the week.