Zippo Vintage GP at the Glen

RACER X #99 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-02-2002, 09:08 AM

Check out the entry list for group 6 at next weeks Vintage races at the Glen.
86 6 68 Chevrolet Corvette white Soenen, Don
10 6 65 Chevrolet Corvette red Jacobs, Jeffrey
47 6 69 Chevrolet Corvette white/orange Brooks, Gary
88 6 63 AC Cobra red Stott, Michael
509 6 65 AC Cobra brg Rodman, J. J.
75 6 65 AC Cobra 427 white Andersson, Robert
99 6 65 AC Cobra 427S/C blue/white Murray, Bill
61 6 64 AC Cobra Comp. Benjamin, Tom
19 6 64 AC Cobra USRRC blue/white Gerber, Frank
77 6 70 Chevrolet Corvette red/yellow Payne, Richard
94 6 70 Chevrolet Corvette yellow/orange Di Pippo, Philip
6 6 67 Chevrolet Corvette red Henry, Merle
111 6 69 Chevrolet Corvette red Henry, Don
57 6 63 Chevrolet Corvette white/blue Gallagher, Tim
31 6 65 Chevrolet Corvette blue/white George, Steve
64 6 64 Chevrolet Corvette black Heck, Jim
33 6 63 Chevrolet Corvette white Donohue, Mike
43 6 65 Chevrolet Corvette blue/white Mooney, Dick
7 6 67 Jaguar XKE green Trask, Don
161 6 67 Jaguar XKE white/blue Hebert, Bob
78 6 62 Jaguar XKE red Heilman, Max
24 6 62 Jaguar XKE blue Fergusson, Al
8 6 63 Jaguar XKE dark green Lippincott, Terry
3 6 62 Jaguar XKE silver/green Cline, Scott
80 6 66 Shelby GT350 white/gold Hackenson, Scott
137 6 65 Shelby GT350 white/blue Bentley, Chuck
530 6 65 Shelby GT350 white/blue Vogt, Curt
44 6 66 Shelby GT350 white/blue Rathbone, William
39 6 66 Shelby GT350 blue Flynne, Russell
180 6 65 Shelby GT350 blue/white Rogal, Peter
51 6 66 Shelby GT350 green Casarella, Charlie
11 6 65 Shelby GT350 blue/white Trueman, David
69 6 66 Shelby GT350 white/blue Conmy, Michael
213 6 65 Shelby GT350 pearl white Richmond, Doug
34 6 63 Chevrolet Corvette white Jard, Jim
614 6 63 Chevrolet Corvette blue Edelbrock, Vic
165 6 63 Chevrolet Corvette r/w/b Mehl, Mark
62 6 62 Jaguar XKE blue Donovan, Brian
127 6 62 Jaguar XKE green Martin, Don
18 6 66 Shelby GT350 gold Reed, Jim
27 6 66 Shelby GT350 blue Edelbrock, Camee
55 6 66 Shelby GT350 white Edelbrock, Christi
174 6 65 Shelby GT350 white/blue Aliberto, Bob
143 6 66 Shelby GT350H black/gold Black, Bob
15 6 67 Chevrolet Camaro Sunoco Ryan, Pat
87 6 69 Chevrolet Camaro white Jensen, Carl
199 6 67 Chevrolet Camaro blue Jensen, Ed
37 6 67 Chevrolet Camaro blue Wiese, Lee
9 6 69 Chevrolet Camaro red/black Pinsonneault,Dan
66 6 67 Chevrolet Camaro white Phelon, Dale
178 6 69 Chevrolet Camaro orange Lind, Richard
0 6 67 Chevrolet Camaro black/white Bradley, Jim
23 6 68 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 blue Eisenberg, Michael
83 6 68 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 maroon/yellow Grimaldi, Frank
1 6 69 Ford Boss 302 blue Underwood, Gary
38 6 69 Ford Boss 302 red/black Mackiewich, Dave
82 6 70 Ford Boss 302 white Douglas, Michael

mustang man · #2 (**permalink**) 09-05-2002, 09:45 AM

Bill Karns and I will be attending this Zippo Classic. We went last year and had a ball.

Anybody else from CC going?

We usually move around to different vantage points but our favorite spot is camping out by the bus stop. Swing by and say hello (Blue 2000 Expedition).

snakeeyes · #3 (**permalink**) 09-05-2002, 10:01 AM

Man, what a great entry list! You guys are lucky to have such a great track nearby. Wish I could make it--one of these years...

Bob

John McMahon · #4 (**permalink**) 09-05-2002, 06:39 PM

Tim,

I plan on going up Friday night or Saturday morning. I need to get my parts ordered for the Stang before I go though.

I am staying with Steve Sunshine at the Radisson. I just spoke to Bill K. and gave him my cell phone number. He told me where you're staying.

Look for me wearing a white or yellow COMPETITION LIFE t-shirt.

RACER X #99 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-07-2002, 11:08 AM

Just got a phone call from JM from the pits at the Glen. I could barely here what he was saying because he was druling over the cars and some of his words were garbled. I would say he was impressed and was having a good time.

Cranky

mr bruce · #6 (**permalink**) 09-07-2002, 11:34 AM

lucky sumbich

John McMahon · #7 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 09:07 AM

Did'ja ever have a weekend where you felt you were on Viagra, but never took the stuff????

I sported a Woody for 2 days continuous at the SVRA Zippo Races at the Glen. Some seious Iron (and aluminum!) were to be seen.

Unbelievable weather, attended the SVRA "Soiree" at the track clubhouse Saturday night, drinking good clean booze for free and rubbing elboes with Vic Edelbrock, Bill Murray, JJ Rodman and all the folks that attended.

I spent a good deal of time in the pits talking to folks. Steve S. and I spent nearly an hour with JJ Rodman who owns CSX2472, an original Dragon Snake and one of the nicest guys on the planet.

Saw some serious Cobra racers form the Shelby Museum, CSX3032, CSX24?? (The Dan Gerber car), a GT40 (white, green wheels...ferget the ##).

Saw the Penske 67 Sunoco Camaro runs until he had mechanical problems.

Sunoco Lola and Lister.....

Tons of Jag Type C's.

Cobra Automotive was flying the GT350 banner with 6 to 8 cars in Group 6.

Group 6 had a field of about 55 cars, took up the entire rear straight of the Glen...amazing thunder in this big bore group.

Bill Murray won the Group 6 race in CSX3032. He battled with Dale Phelon in his Camaro and the white vette of Dick Mooney (I think).

One of two Maserati 312 street cars owned by Lance (ferget last name...real nice guy).

NO CHEETERS BRUCE!!!!!!!!!

I was there with Steve Sunshine (aka CSX4027) and ran ino the following folks from Club Cobra...

Danny Ostrower (aka Super Snake) blew head gasket on Porsche 968)
Steve Smith (aka fia#09)
Peter Baselice (lurker and Club Cranky member & son Patrick)
Russ (lurker who found me because I said I would wear a yellow COMP. LIFE T Shirt!)
Bill Karns (aka wgk)
Tim Lewis (aka mustang man)

Of Course, we saw the Competition Life Sponsored Group 10 car of Lauren Fix in her John Player Special Trans Am Mustang which was severly trashed in an accident in Turn #6 (laces of boot) when she went thru Speedy Dry. Her crew and husband Paul had the car repaired in time for group 10 run on Sat. PM. But the car was retired Sunday AM with a bad connecting rod.

Great time, met lots of great people and saw lots of killer racing (hung out at the Inner Loop where the pros were going 3 wide into the loop!)

Roscoe · #8 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 10:11 AM

So where's the feekin pictures???

Roscoe

John McMahon · #9 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 10:24 AM

Roscoe,

.....I don't know nuthin 'bout FEEKIN pictures.

If yer asking about FREEKIN pictures...well, I didn't take any. I was too busy.

The photographic illerates; Steve Sunshine and Bill Karns took maybe one or two. Its our way of saying....

"Git yer ass to the Glen or suffer the lack of pictures!!!"

Kabische?

RACER X #99 · #10 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 03:11 PM

$15,000 Mustang
$50,0000 + Cobra
$30,000 Expidition tow truck
$5,000 Trailer
$5,000 in spare parts

But no $200.00 Camera

Is it too much to ask for a couple of lousy pictures for your friends that could not attend?

John McMahon · #11 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 04:41 PM

Not getting any pictures for Cranky........PRICELESS!!!!!!!!

For race results:

http://www.theglen.com/

then go to:

"Zippo U.S. Vintage Grand Prix Weekend Concludes"

CSX 4027 · #12 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 05:08 PM

It was an incredible time. Bill Murray's CSX 3032 didn't miss a beat. He had a hi-compression very tweaked 427 along with side protection bars installed and a forward facing roll bar ala 289 along with the original set-up. Believe it or not he did not even run bronze bushings in the rear suspension. The were a Delron like but better material. I timed him at better that 2.09. Now that's fast in a Cobra or any car for that matter. Hail to the King!!

Hank Dondero · #13 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 05:35 PM

A 2:09 in a race prepped Cobra huh? Ol DD (Don Durner) turned a 2:12 in his ERA last July. Not bad for an Mcamatuer.

Hi Steve!

McHank
FFR 1776-II

a427sc · #14 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 06:23 PM

Less' see now. The winning car in group 6, including multiple Corvette small blocks and big blocks, dozens of small block GT-350's, Jag XKE's including lightweights, and numerous Camaro and Mustang T/A cars was what... well do these old eyes deceive me? Could it be true? CSX3032, a BIG BLOCK CAR!!!

What tire was he running? Slicks or the Hoosier TD', or the treaded Bluestreaks? Well, at the Glen, HP rules.

McFEz

Thanks for remembering Hank.

RACER X #99 · #15 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 08:31 PM

Let's all give a cheer for the A/P 427 Cobra that kicked the crap out of those B/P 289 Mustangs and 327 Vettes

Nice job.

CSX 4027 · #16 (**permalink**) 09-09-2002, 08:48 PM

The car was runnung Hoosiers and no rear sway bar.
Uh Oh!!! I think I miss my car

a427sc · #17 (**permalink**) 09-10-2002, 06:01 AM

So now it's A/P vs B/P, implying the higher class has an advantage? But when its BB vs sb, that never comes up.

Ok, this is vintage racing, where the B/P cars are SUPPOSED to be running 289's. Wanna bet how big some of them really are? It's not cheating, because that would imply someone actually checks.

But as you all know, at the Glen HP rules. At LRP, the 3.8/4.2L 6cyl Donavan Jag rules, and the GT350s all run at the front, well in front of the sb cobras too.

So roll your eyes all you want, but ..

A 427 COMP COBRA KICKED BUTT!!

McFEz

RACER X #99 · #18 (**permalink**) 09-10-2002, 06:17 AM

McFez,
Don't know if this is true or not but heard the 427 motor was an all aluminum Shelby creation. Still he did prove that the BB's can beat up on the little guys on certain tracks.

Still look forward to trying to catch you at the Glen. At least you put your BB on the track.

Crank

John McMahon · #19 (**permalink**) 09-10-2002, 07:55 AM

I'm scrounging around for pics and will add links as I find them....

Hank Dondero · #20 (**permalink**) 09-10-2002, 08:05 AM

Giovanni,

Great shots! Especially liked the pit photos. BTW, where you looking for 4 legged mammals when shooting the off track greenery?

Enrico
FFR 1776-II