Finally, a good kill.

[Karl Bebout]

Dan Rat, most any feed and grain place has a certified scale and will give you an accurate weight for just a few dollars.

[vettestr]

The scale part is easy and cheap. Dan, we have a rock and stone retailer just N. of Deer Valley and about 21st or 22 Ave. They have a scale used to determine the weight of flag stone or whatever and a before/after check of the vehicle tells them what you loaded.

Every time I have taken a car there they are happy to trade a look at the car for a quick trip over the scale. If you don't need a printout have a pen and paper ready to record the readings. The scale display is on the side of the building and the numbers are about 24 inches tall. If they are not busy they let me roll the front axle on for a reading, then stop in the center of the scale for a gross weight and a quick rear axle weight as I pull the car to the end of the scale.

This method is not as precise as doing all 4 corners independently but works for me.

[John-Tucson]

DWRAT, we will probably do our yearly "Weigh-In" next month. We use four scales and can give you the total, and the front to rear. Only a couple of the Phoenix guys have come down here for it, you might ask Karl what he thinks of the job that we do.

[Car Nut]

If you use helium in your tires it will weigh less.

[vettestr]

Originally Posted by John-Tucson

DWRAT, we will probably do our yearly "Weigh-In" next month. We use four scales and can give you the total, and the front to rear. Only a couple of the Phoenix guys have come down here for it, you might ask Karl what he thinks of the job that we do.

The run up to see the Tucson guys will nail down your car weight for sure. I am guessing the MK2 FFR comes in close to about 2400 pounds max. That is with a driver and as you drove it to the scales. John am I close or can you help with a more educated estimate? Until we hear different lets use the round numbers of 2400 LBS.... maybe a bit high?

The web is full of huge HP claims but a quick scan showed me engines with your goodies averaged from 350 to 450 HP. Found one guy claiming 535HP but had very worked heads and more goodies. I know it is all just chatter until you get the pulls on paper but ballpark numbers at least. If she weighs 2400 LBS and use 350 Hp minus 15% drive train loss then you get 297.5 rear wheel HP so 8.06 pounds per horse and @ 450 hp - 15% = 382.5 and 6.274 LBS per horse. 8 .06 or 6.27 pounds per horse is pretty respectable.

A Shelby GT500KR with advertised 540 Hp minus the same 15% = 459 HP and at 3900 pounds tips the HP per pound to 8.49 LBS per pound. The Shelby is supercharged and uses advertised HP but bet it is a real number. Just bench racing but the numbers are a hoot to compare. The old days you were lucky to get over 1 horse per cubic inch to the wheels and that is in a tank with a zillion pounds.

[csx4910]

I am curious if anyone knows the weight of the CSX cars Loaded and unloaded?

[JBCOBRA]

Sweet! I always enjoy hearing this stuff. Got my heart pumpin'.
It has been so nasty here weatherwise. I am going into Cobra Driving Withdrawl!!!
Thanks for cheering me up!
JB

[Danr55]

Greg, I thought you sold your car. Do you still have it?

[greg schroeder]

Originally Posted by Danr55

Greg, I thought you sold your car. Do you still have it?

My Brother in law has it. He's itching to make a few passes in the car.

[Fitz]

and not when it is 105'. Speedworld for the whole club; just taken it easy and all......Street tires only? No "Cheting"...

[mikiec]

Greg,

Can you arrainge a date in late March early April. exclude April10th, for a group day? I would not even mind being the slowest of the day. I'm a 60 second driver.

Mike

[Karl Bebout]

Fitz, Jeff's the only one that would cheat. That's why he got thrown off the track the last time we were there with him. Cheater, cheater, cheater!

[ItBites]

I'm in for a couple passes at Speedworld. I couldn't quite get an 11 sec pass with the little-bitty 427, but I think the new 540 may do better...

[mikiec]

I wonder if Karl will have his finished by then?

Mike

[Danr55]

"I wonder if Karl will have his finished by then?" What year are you talking, Mikie?

[concobra]

My better judgement tells me not to comment on this thread. But better judgment be damned I cannot sit back and say nothing. To read that fellow car enthusiasts are racing on the street, bragging about it and others condoning it astounds me.

Street racing, whatever way it is done, is just plain wrong. If you want to contribute to the demise of our hobby, help regulate it out of existance, provide Insurance companies with more reasons to jack up our rates or not insure us at all, and turn the public against us. Just keep it up, your succeeding.

Street racing doesn't make you cool, mean you have a faster car, or impress the people that around you that are driving safely and within the law. God knows we have enough trouble with the police just trying to keep these cars on the streets.

If you want to see how your car compares to other performance cars then do it on a track. That's what tracks are for.

I am sure many will have responses to this stating many factors against my opinoin regarding this issue. So be it. Street racing is wrong .... period.

PS Brent if you wish to remove me from this website because of my position and statements here. I will respect your decision and wish you the very best. But I will not change my stand on this issue.

[DWRAT]

Concobra,
You have a right to your opinion and I expected it from a few readers just as yourself.
You enjoy your Cobra your way and I will enjoy my Cobra my way.
Dan

PS, hopefully no one will remove you for your opinion.

[John-Tucson]

Concobra, up yours.

[JustOne]

Concobra,

I would agree that "street racing" can be dangerous, but when done in an area without other cars around and lack of "things" to hit...really what is the big deal? Obviosly, don't go racing down through the top of 4th gear in a crowded area, but every time someone mentiones a streetrace, is it bad?

The track... I think we have all been to the track and enjoy racing there the because you get to find out what the car really runs, and we hit walls instead of telephone poles. However unless at the track at a group event, I highly doubt you line up against that KR GT500, most likely it is against an open header 12 second car that really should have mufflers and is about as much fun racing against as a lawnmower.

Sometimes that GSXR 750 or the vette or what ever pulls up next to you on the street, it's clear and you just gotta find out, at least through a couple of gears.

Justin

[JBCOBRA]

Cobras are Bad @ss cars, and the guys that gravitate toward them are usually Bad Boys
to a certain extent. Otherwise, why would we be interested in Cobras in the first place? Go buy a Prius.
I am an extremely honest and trustworthy person. If I tell someone I will do something I do it.
I will bet that most of us have other fast cars too. Cars for different purposes. Fast Purposes.
So, when it comes to traffic laws, for the most part...................I just can't deal.
Especially when it comes @ssholes riding the left lane, holding up traffic. I am coming around. Period.
My attorney breaks my stones. He says "JB, when you take your car in for service, what do you tell him? Check the oil and change the horn" LOL
As far as street racing goes, I have been doing it forever. Racing in the rain is my favorite, but any road surface will do. I do not believe I take uncalculated risks however. I choose and practice my "tracks" carefully.
I could fly a plane by the time I was 17, so when I got out of the plane and into a car, it was like "step into my parlor"
ps.
I didn't write this. LOL