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Old 06-30-2009, 05:14 PM
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Ron, where in Nor Cal are they setting these up? I just drove yesterday from Cal Berkeley (East SF Bay for you non-CA folks) to North OC. Even with a few rest stops we did it in 7 hours flat. Most of Interstate 5 is marked "Max Speed 70mph." I tended to waffle between 70-74 on my cruise control, and most of the time I was having to swing to the #2 lane to allow the occasional 75-80er go on by. Only saw one speed trap in both directions (a CHPer using lazer on the Grapevine...I was doing 74 in a crowd at that moment). Saw a few other CHPers nailing people with instant-on and any obvious offenders (i.e. a bright red NSX).

If my oldest kid ends up at Berkeley or Stanford, it will be absolute torture to drive this OPEN stretch at anything slower than what I did yesterday.

P.S. 110 degrees plus that big honkin' dairy farm in the Central Valley = eye watering moments.

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Old 06-30-2009, 05:29 PM
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Ron, where in Nor Cal are they setting these up? I just drove yesterday from Cal Berkeley (East SF Bay for you non-CA folks) to North OC. Even with a few rest stops we did it in 7 hours flat. Most of Interstate 5 is marked "Max Speed 70mph." I tended to waffle between 70-74 on my cruise control, and most of the time I was having to swing to the #2 lane to allow the occasional 75-80er go on by. Only saw one speed trap in both directions (a CHPer using lazer on the Grapevine...I was doing 74 in a crowd at that moment). Saw a few other CHPers nailing people with instant-on and any obvious offenders (i.e. a bright red NSX).

If my oldest kid ends up at Berkeley or Stanford, it will be absolute torture to drive this OPEN stretch at anything slower than what I did yesterday.

P.S. 110 degrees plus that big honkin' dairy farm in the Central Valley = eye watering moments.
As far as I know, red light cameras are the only "big brother" surveillance systems that we have in place in the SF and Monterey Bay Area. I read an article somewhere that some Cities are pulling the plug on the camera ticket systems because it's costing more than it's worth to support the infrastructure. I guess in many cases (especially with red light cameras) they have successfully modified behavior, so the revenues have plummeted...but there are still costs to maintain the system.

Driving the Cobra on the street and stabbing it once in a while or speeding is a "pay to play" proposition.
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I read that the AZ legislature just passed that the state sponsored cameras are to go away in 2010. There is one judge in the PHX area that throws the citations out of his court since he feels they are not constitutional. Aside from not being able to confront your accuser, my real problem with the cameras, in AZ, is that the authorities use selective posecution. They don't even bother sending a citation to the owner of a vehicle with an out of state license, since they will not follow through with a hand delivered summons, if there is no response to the mailed notification. Originally, the speel was that the cameras were to be used to increase highway safety, but our previous governor saw the financial windfall possibilities and wanted to use the income to balance the state budget. No worries, she's out of state office now....she's comrade Obama's homeland security chief. Janet Napotano.
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Karlos,what's the difference between Janet Napolitano and a bowling ball?
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Karlos,what's the difference between Janet Napolitano and a bowling ball?
If you really had to, you could eat the bowling ball.
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Yep, and enjoy it!
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If it were me, I would pay and then try not to do it again.

No points, no foul.
Really?The state just violated my constitutional rights and you think there is "No foul"?You must be a liberal.

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until you are served by an "officer of the law" the citation is unconstitutional. By signing you are giving up your right to a court hearing which is protected by our constitution. Unless certified or registered mail, you have not been served.

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[quote=Cobrabill;962618]Really?The state just violated my constitutional rights and you think there is "No foul"?You must be a liberal.

So, you think you have a constitutional right to speed and endanger others? Where was that written. I must have missed it that day in History class.

Pick your battles my friend.

If this is the only thing that bugs you about this country and its NEW direction then by all means, go to it.
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Twilight Zone?
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Twilight Zone?

Thanks- i forgot that one....
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I have been told by many that you should just pitch the ticket you get in the mail. Mine says....
Pay the $181.00 by 7/30/09 . No Court appearance is required no points will be assessed to driving record. Can not get out of it by attending Driving School. It says if I do not pay, a full sanction and surcharge and complaint will be filed into court, whch may result in additonal cost. Blurred Picture of person driving my car with clear picture of Plate.

[1] Should I pay
[2] Pitch
[3] Fight the ticket
No points? Your insurance won't go up. Consider it a tax.

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"First off i didn't think i needed to include "school zones" and other similiar things as i thought everyone was bright enough to catch my drift.You proved me wrong on that count."

Bill, You should know never to assume anyone catches your drift. Especially in an internet venue. You are a trip & I enjoy reading your posts. Keep on giving the liberals the "whole nine yards!"
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Actually it was just before Thomas Exit going south on I-17. For some reason I was passing some clown going to slow; holding the world press up. It got me and a few others who were going with the flow.

55 on interstates is/are too damn slow, especially in reverse!LOL:
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Lets see. You admit to breaking the law and getting caught. Any normal person would just pay the ticket. This whole thread reminds me of all those idiots years ago that were saying that the federal income tax was unconstitutional and you don't have to pay it. Funny part was that the head organizer of that movement was in prison for that very thing.

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Lets see. You admit to breaking the law and getting caught. Any normal person would just pay the ticket. This whole thread reminds me of all those idiots years ago that were saying that the federal income tax was unconstitutional and you don't have to pay it. Funny part was that the head organizer of that movement was in prison for that very thing.

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I'm sure that the British felt the same about those pesky colonists who didn't want to pay their fair share of the taxes.
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Jeezus Fitz...see what you started? There's gonna be shots fired, soon.
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Jeezus Fitz...see what you started? There's gonna be shots fired, soon.
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It would be interesting to see...

1. Has the rate of traffic fatalities and injuries declined?

2. Has the crime rate gone down now that the police are left to attend to more serious offenses?
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Dave (ROUSHAC), Were you at the show in Columbus last weekend? Not to steal the thread but just wondering as we spoke briefly with a guy in a Cobra at a Western NY rest stop who was from Syracuse & coming back from the Columbus show.
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