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04-28-2010, 10:06 PM
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Location: Brisbane Australia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC under re-construction, GenIV with tremec 600, Jag 3.31 L/S diff
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andyl, We would all love to have 427ci but the reality is that with modern alloy heads and cams on/in Windsor based engines one can enjoy the cobra experience especially if one stroked the windsor.
The W302/5ltr stroked to 331/347 makes a great engine with say AFR heads and the 351W is bluddy fantastic as a 392/408ci with the same heads.
My preferred engine would be a 351 based clevor. A 351 windsor with CHI 3V alloy heads and a nice roller cam and aftermarket 4 barrel FI.
Don't tell any-one I said that ... I'd never live it down 
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04-28-2010, 10:58 PM
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andyl, We would all love to have 427ci but the reality is that with modern alloy heads and cams on/in Windsor based engines one can enjoy the cobra experience especially if one stroked the windsor.
The W302/5ltr stroked to 331/347 makes a great engine with say AFR heads and the 351W is bluddy fantastic as a 392/408ci with the same heads.
My preferred engine would be a 351 based clevor. A 351 windsor with CHI 3V alloy heads and a nice roller cam and aftermarket 4 barrel FI.
Don't tell any-one I said that ... I'd never live it down |
Yeah the CHI 3Vs look fantastic and everything I've read is great but space dictates what I can put in without mods to engine bay lining etc, a 302W with windsor style heads fits with tight exhaust area and a 351W I think would actually fit better due to the shape of the bay but the Cleveland style heads would upset the apple cart I think on the exhaust side.
The other thought is that to the eye whether a 8.2" or 9.5" W block will still look like a Windsor whereas a Cleveland is a more obvious deviation from what the car was built and approved with (in regards to 'interested' onlookers). In short, a stroked 351 to 427 (or 408 in a std block) will look more like a 302W than a Cleveland and get less attention because of it.
The AFR 205s are the top of the pile for this sort of thing in my mind, and I must say they are getting fantastic figures out of 347s with the mid 400HP in a streetable build.
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04-28-2010, 11:21 PM
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Mind you, everything I said would make me totally un-registerable  hence the 6Ltr chev. 
Mind you, I dream of the day that I might be able to do what I'd like so in my shed sits a 302W, a 5Ltr virgin block, and a new 351W service block just waiting for the day.
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04-28-2010, 11:36 PM
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Mind you, everything I said would make me totally un-registerable hence the 6Ltr chev.
Mind you, I dream of the day that I might be able to do what I'd like so in my shed sits a 302W, a 5Ltr virgin block, and a new 351W service block just waiting for the day. |
lol, Ford envy eh.
While we're at it (brain picking time, all opinions welcome) I notice you run a Jag LSD, do you know of a good guy in SEQ for them ? Also what would be your preference for aftermarket 4.125" bore Windsor blocks on a value for money basis ? Dart and World would be great blocks but what is your opinion on others such as Ford Racing etc ? |
04-29-2010, 01:35 AM
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lol, Ford envy eh.
While we're at it (brain picking time, all opinions welcome) I notice you run a Jag LSD, do you know of a good guy in SEQ for them ? Also what would be your preference for aftermarket 4.125" bore Windsor blocks on a value for money basis ? Dart and World would be great blocks but what is your opinion on others such as Ford Racing etc ?
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What ...to service the jag diff or buy a used one?.
Re Blocks, I'm a bit partial to Bill Mitchell stuff but an overkill for a street car.
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04-29-2010, 02:41 AM
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What ...to service the jag diff or buy a used one?.
Re Blocks, I'm a bit partial to Bill Mitchell stuff but an overkill for a street car.
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Re the diff, mine has a series 1 or 2 (inboard disc) 3.77:1 open centre and I want to go for an LSD and possibly change ratios. I'm not sure what torque they will hack either so was going to see about that and work out what limits that puts on things and what cost to go past those limits.
I've not seen Bill Mitchell, I'll have a look about. |
04-29-2010, 03:26 AM
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andyl, sorry mate, Bill Mitchell is World Products.
Re the Diff. I have a huge respect for a small independent Jag service business at Newmarket in Brisbane. Jag & Rover Spares Phone 07 33565255. He also wrecks Jags and Rovers so is a source for second hand stuff.
The main thing is he knows his Jags backwards and employs great Jag mechanics. But be warned, some find him a bit brash ... not arrogant ... just short and sharp in his responses. He is a very busy man. Actually the business is a bit strange but all the hot rod guys buy their Jag rear ends from him.
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04-28-2010, 11:22 PM
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The W302/5ltr stroked to 331/347 makes a great engine with say AFR heads and the 351W is bluddy fantastic as a 392/408ci with the same heads.
My preferred engine would be a 351 based clevor. A 351 windsor with CHI 3V alloy heads and a nice roller cam and aftermarket 4 barrel FI.
Don't tell any-one I said that ... I'd never live it down |
Sorry Les, the Doc checked my ears and apparently they're OK
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04-29-2010, 04:24 AM
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Sorry Les, the Doc checked my ears and apparently they're OK |
David, have you been told today?. 
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