kirkhams in Australia

[Ralph_C]

Do not try to impaort a kirkham and get it converted to RHD - get a Hawk instead ... http://www.hawkcars.co.uk/hawk427/index.html

Saves the conversion cost - or maybe Kirkham can do this direct out of the US?

Hawk also do the nicest 289FIA...

[Dimis]

I have been investigating this option myself... again like everything, it is doable but easier said than done. Even with the revised 90 day Club Plate laws due early 2011.

...and then you're still at the mercy of laws retrospectively changing, meaning you're stuck holding a baby you can't get on the road... and no one will buy from you as they'll encounter the same problems.

In regard to Boxhead's comment, in Victoria at least, the Roadworthy Check list doesn't state anything about the requirement of a vehicle needing to be RHD or that it is unroadworthy if LHD. More that the steering is free from defect yada-yada, etc, etc... But, I'm sure they'll find some other obstacle in front of you.


In regard to Macloft's comments... I'm still not sure how this can be done?
I have no personal experience with this, but have also heard similar things with guys bringing in cars from OS (not Kirkham, typically Mustangs & Vetts, Skylines even)...

BUT... If you need to meet ADRs a Kirkham wont qualify... Their Chassis is good for only about 2500Nm/deg (as confirmed by David K) which is about 2000Nm/deg short. So it will fail the first step at Torsion & beam test.
Which means large expense trying to engineer the Chassis and getting suspension etc through Eng for ADRs.

Has anyone got any other ideas?
I'd be curious to know.


Many thanks,
Anth

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by Dimis

In regard to Boxhead's comment, in Victoria at least, the Roadworthy Check list doesn't state anything about the requirement of a vehicle needing to be RHD or that it is unroadworthy if LHD. More that the steering is free from defect yada-yada, etc, etc... But, I'm sure they'll find some other obstacle in front of you.

Has anyone got any other ideas?
I'd be curious to know.


Many thanks,
Anth

I have not read anything hard and fast but if it is "ok" to register left hand why do companies do left to right conversions?
I thought it was a requirement on new cars (less than 25 years old)?

[Dimis]

Fair question boxhead.

I think it has to do with "ADR compliance" and not "Roadworthy cert".
Club plate car only needs to be "Roadworthy" not ADR complied. (as far as I'm aware - experts feel free to chime in!)

But then you are limited to where and when you can drive it...
New Club permit laws due next year 2011 are trying to address this.
But like I said nothing stops the bureaucrats from retrospectively changing the rules to suit a particular political position which means you could be left holding a dud... which is a worry for me.

[boxhead]

The "new" club rego your reffering to has been in use in the NT for the past 12 months (I think we copied it from NSW).
This is the 90 day permit (60 days on club organised/sanctioned events and 30 days for private usage)
This is what my Valiant Station wagon is currently on.

Also I think you are right in so far as R/H drive is ADR issue and not roadworthy, but you must meet ADR's for full rego, where as club rego is roadworthy only.

I sort of looked at putting my Cobra on club rego instead of full rego (to save engineer hassles) but was advised I could not do so as to be roadworthy it would need a compliance plate or letter advising vehicle is compliant but plate not required, and to get this I would have to meet ADR regulations.

[Mando]

Dimis, I don't understand why it's so difficult to increase the strength of kirkam's chassis. I don't know anything about Mechanical Engineering but once 1 frame has been altered to meet what is required to meet standards, the rest will follow. What don't I understand?

Regards.

[Dimis]

Kirkham do a RHD - $1500 option.
No fuss there.

[Wazza]

I "Googled" the key words...found it in JUST CARS.....

http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/...4-7bb18ce24f34

Cheers,
Warren.

[soulman]

Looking @ the photos, it does not seem to have much in body support.

Being Aluminiun it looks it would just fold on the first bump, body that is.

Although it does seem reasonably priced.

Soul.

[BMK]

Mmm anyone know anything about that WA aluminium car..

[ELNR67]

Originally Posted by BMK

Mmm anyone know anything about that WA aluminium car..

Do you mean the two Kirkhams that Rmc are building?.They haven't been approved yet for engineering ADR requirements.I spoke to them two weeks ago.They told me they are a few months away form getting approved.Those two cars are sold,but they told me they will be getting more once they get the engineering approved.

[750hp]

Originally Posted by ELNR67

Do you mean the two Kirkhams that Rmc are building?

Ummm... it's a pretty fair bet that Bernie's talking about the G Force car mentioned in the two prior posts...

Jeez, there's a fair bit of hand holding going on in this thread. Feel like I'm back at primary school. ELNR - if you want to buy a Kirkham, pick up the phone and call them. Ph: 0011 1 801 377 8224. If you're under 18 or still living at home, get your parent's permission before you dial. Tell David or Tom what you need and they'll build it. Simple - it's only money.

[albanycobra]

You can get anything licensed in WA at the moment and with just about any engine....Get it licensed over here and do a transfer into your chosen State. Might be a quicker way......

[BMK]

albanycobra

Mmm not a bad idea to do that for a GT40..

[albanycobra]

Mmm not a bad idea to do that for a GT40..

If you want me to go have a look at that Cobra and take some more photo's let me know. The body was fitted to the G-Force chassis at the G-Force factory by Rob.